49 Chrysler with no compression

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Nza, Jul 29, 2007.

  1. Nza

    Nza Guest

    i got to ride in it one time, when i was five. what a great time!

    I am just dying to get the thing running already, but i have been so
    busy and haven't had time to do much to it..

    BTW - update.. I removed the thermostat housing, as i said in an
    earlier post. So I filled the water jacket with water again and stuck
    my coffee-cup heating element in there... cranked the car after
    heating the water jacket to 140 and sprayed a little ether in there
    while cranking... *POOF* it backfired through the carb.. probably
    hosed it up with my luck!
     
    Nza, Aug 5, 2007
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  2. Nza

    Nza Guest

    Nza, Aug 5, 2007
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  3. Nza

    Steve B. Guest

    Steve B., Aug 5, 2007
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  4. Nza

    Steve Guest

    Steve, Aug 6, 2007
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  5. Nza

    Guest Guest

    Is that the coupe? Which model: Royal, Windsor/Deluxe?
    Mine is the 4 door sedan, Windsor. My 40 Royal is the coupe version.
    Looks like the chrome is in good shape and you have the hard to find
    chrome side spears. Also, the tail lamp housings/lenses are hard to
    find for this year car. They were only produced from about March 49
    to September, known as the second series 49's, the first series were
    carryovers on the 46-48's.
     
    Guest, Aug 6, 2007
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  6. Nza

    Nza Guest

    It's a Royal Coupe. I will take some more pictures of the car later
    when it is not 100 degrees and 110 percent humidity outside..
    argh.. damn that global warming... LOL ... I have an idea -- we
    should change the season name from "summer" to "global warming"....
    aahhahahha

    Mostly the chrome is in good shape. A couple of pieces are dinged/
    dented from "road hazards" in the past, i imagine.. One of the rear
    bumper overriders is pretty well toasted. The taillights are
    intact, but show some cracking internally.. I was afraid of hearing
    what you said -- the taillights are hard if not impossible to find..
    The only broken lens is the one on the top of where the chrome on the
    back of the trunk says "Fluid Drive". I guess it is the license
    plate light.

    The trunk is a little rusty and that band around the back under the
    trunk is pretty well rusted as well. It looks like someone used
    lead foil (was there such a thing?) to temporarily fix that part..
    The door sills are rusted and there's a nice hole right above the
    master cylinder. Other than that.. when I go to remove what I think
    is rust on the bottom of the car, it turns out to be some heavy
    undercoating... or some 45 year old georgia red clay... i'm really
    amazed at the structure of this thing.. if it were built today, I
    believe it would be a terrifically expensive piece of machinery what
    with all the extra gusseting that today is considered "overkill".

    The cowl vent leaks... not a whole lot, but i found out when i washed
    it, it does indeed leak .. can't wait to use that 55 mph A/C ... LOL

    Just got the generic wiring harness today in the mail.. woohoo!
    Can't wait to see how difficult it's going to be to install.. I think
    I'm going to have to re-use a majority of the old connectors... lots
    of soldering..
     
    Nza, Aug 7, 2007
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  7. Nza

    Guest Guest

    Look at Andy Bernbaum Auto Parts. Great source for all old Chrysler
    parts. The cowl vent is no problem, as are complete gasket sets,
    door/window handles, lenses, check it out.
     
    Guest, Aug 7, 2007
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  8. Nza

    Nza Guest

    excellent site! Thanks!
     
    Nza, Aug 7, 2007
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  9. Nza

    Steve Guest

    Nza wrote:

    They usually do. You can adjust them to clamp closed a bit tighter, but
    unless the rubber seal is in good shape it'll leak a tad.
    Warn your date you're about to open it if she's wearing a skirt. Or
    don't.... ;-p
     
    Steve, Aug 7, 2007
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  10. Nza

    Nza Guest

    LOL... i'm the type that wouldn't warn anyone except a relative or old
    lady..
     
    Nza, Aug 7, 2007
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  11. Nza

    Nza Guest

    I was wondering if it's possible to access the valves without removing
    the manifolds?
     
    Nza, Aug 8, 2007
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  12. Nza

    Guest Guest

    On the passenger side front tire, remove it and there is a panel on
    the wheel well, remove that and you should see the side valve cover.
    Make sure that you have a new gasket, which you can order from
    Bernbaum. The cover is held on with two wing type nuts, easy to
    remove.
     
    Guest, Aug 8, 2007
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  13. Nza

    Nza Guest

    Awesome! I truly value your (and the others as well) information on
    this car. I wish I had paid attention to the car about 10 years
    ago.. Now, I am way more thoughtful than I was at age 21.. however,
    the engine might not now be in the condition of stuck-open valves had
    i been as thoughtful then.. ah well.. it will run soon!
     
    Nza, Aug 8, 2007
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  14. Nza

    Steve Guest

    Define "access."

    IIRC, you can get to the cover and remove it and look around (and maybe
    even compress some of the springs) with the manifolds in place. But I
    don't think you can get a spring compressor at all of them without
    removing at least the exhaust pipe, if not the manifold itself. If
    you're just going to inspect/clean/unstick things then give it a try.
    Remember, you can remove the hole fender to improve access, if
    necessary. Not that big a job.
     
    Steve, Aug 8, 2007
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  15. Nza

    Nza Guest


    Indeed, what you say is what I intend to do... just try initially to
    free the valves via the valve covers. I went out and sprayed all the
    fasteners with PB B'laster on the inner fender... let me tell you..
    that is one hell of an inner fender... i was expecting some dinky
    sheet metal cover where i could barely get my arm in there... however,
    i found a huge piece of heavy sheet metal with like 10 screws holding
    it in..

    LOL... I know why we won WW2... really .. it's obvious if you work on
    anything from that period. It's so hard to understand why so many
    people have embraced socialist ideals in the past 60 years..

    I love this car.. It restores my faith in America.. maybe someday
    we'll get the gov't out of our pockets and back to the way things used
    to be... but i'm not going to hold my breath. And I apologise for
    everything I say turning into some half-assed political statement...
    LOL
     
    Nza, Aug 8, 2007
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  16. I charge my 8v battery with the 6v charger. This works very well with my 47
    Windsor. The starter cranks fast and the lights are bright.
     
    bigsep via CarKB.com, Aug 9, 2007
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  17. Nza

    Nza Guest

    I found this out as well a few days ago.. i just tried setting it on
    6v, then checked with the meter and it read 8.5v .. doesn't charge it
    quickly, but it does charge it.
     
    Nza, Aug 9, 2007
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  18. Nza

    Nza Guest

    Well, I finally had time to remove the cylinder head from the
    engine.
    Bad news, #5 cylinder is galled like a mo-fo... has some really deep
    "marks" at the back end of the thing. Looks like it was probably
    done quite some time ago. I'm pretty certain it would ruin a hone in
    a heartbeat.

    Can these engines be bored ? Would I be better looking for a "new"
    block? I was looking at the top of the block and it looks like
    there's not much room to bore the cylinders any wider.

    Also, I've managed to remove the 6 intake valves so far.. Can't get
    the exhausts to come out yet.. Is there an easy way to remove the
    valve springs from the engine? This is the first flathead from which
    I've tried to remove the valves.. I assumed it was going to be quite
    a bit easier than it is. I haven't managed to get any of the
    springs out yet.. I've removed collets from all the valves.
    Unfortunately, I now need to remove the oil pan to retrieve half of
    one.. those oil return holes are in such a convenient location!
    I've managed to remove one spring retainer so far... but that's it.
    I'm going to go out and see if I can do better this morning. If it's
    this hard to get these crusty, weak springs out, I can't imagine how
    difficult it's going to be to install the new parts!

    I'm thinking more and more this is going to require a complete
    overhaul, possibly including a different block... it's no problem to
    me, but didn't want it to cost so much initially..
     
    Nza, Sep 4, 2007
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  19. Nza

    Steve Guest

    Oh yeah, they can be bored. The castings are very thick. The critical
    thing will be finding out what step oversize pistons are available.


    Intersting thought- the "big" Chrysler six was made as an industrial
    engine for a long, long, time (into the late 60s) so finding one is
    possible. But
     
    Steve, Sep 4, 2007
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  20. Nza

    Steve B. Guest


    The block can be bored. Don't see any reason it couldn't be sleeved
    if the damage is tooo much to take out.

    Can't offer any help on getting the valve springs out.

    Steve B.
     
    Steve B., Sep 4, 2007
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