3.5L or Hemi

You're missing $4+/gal. gas from this summer onward.

Only place you see 300s selling now is in de ghetto.

 

The gas consumption with the 3.5L or Hemi isn't that bad.
The latest EPA gives the 3.5L 17/24 while the Hemi gets 15/23.
This compared to a 3.0L Honda Accord which gets 18/26.
If you like the look of the 300/Charger/Magnum gas consumption shouldn't be
the only reason why you don't get one.

 

Price EPA Fuel 0-60 s Length Weight
5.6 Hemi 300C $35k 17/25 5.6 197" 4066

3.5 Avalon $29K 22/31 6 197" 3545

 

You can buy a 5.7L Charger for $25K. There are some amazing deals for new
leftover 06s.
The deals for Avalons aren't as good. I don't think the 3.5L Avalon is that
fast.
More like 6.5-7.0 seconds.
Plus, you don't get RWD which is a must unless you like torque steer and
nose dives when braking hard.

 

Since you top posted I will reply the same. <
Yes there are new 2006 Hemis for 30% off, but those cars have
depreciated over one year. Buy one then try to trade it in a few yrs,
you'll find out.
OK if you are keeping it for 7+ yrs though.

My Chrysler LH and Sebring don't noise dive or have significant torque
steer, the LH cars have no torque steer, but I'm sure the Avalon will be
as good in snow as the LH and Sebring are.
I've driven FWD since 1980 and have never experienced nose dive on
braking, but the early FWD cars did have torque steer; that's a long
time ago. Torque steer has been designed out, but if you hot rod a FWD
car it may return.

The Hemi needs AWD to give adequate slippery road traction, that drops
it's MPG (about 5%) to 17/24 and adds about $2K to the price.

 

I don't plan on getting rid of the car unless its in the shop a lot.
So resale isn't huge for me.
FWD cars tend to have approx. 65:35 weight distrubution. I have noticed
nose dives while braking hard with FWD GM cars.
The LX cars are 54:46 for the Hemi and 53:47 for the 3.5L.

I would have considered an Avalon but don't like the looks and FWD.
The fuel economy numbers are excellent.
If you want to experience torque steer drive a 06 Altima. Pretty sure you
will also experience torque steer in a FWD car with 268HP Avalon.

The Infiniti G35 and Lexus IS350 are my favourites out of Japan.

 

Oy, not THIS again.

Here are the facts:

1) The LH car front suspension has a non-zero scrub radius (although it
is small)
2) Any FWD car with a non-zero scrub radius will experience torque steer
3) The LH car torque steers. End of story. QED

Epilogue to story:
1) The idea that equal-length half-shafts eliminate torque steer is false
2) Even if it were true, the LH car does not HAVE equal-length
half-shafts (they're closer than a transverse engine car, but not equal).

 

Nope, the LH has the engine along the axis of the car, it is not placed
transverse. It just doesn't torque steer.
FWD engines that are transverse do torque steer, but as you note that
can be reduced.
I've never noticed torque steer with my LH, even with max throttle
turning out into traffic.
Do you not know what torque steer is?

 

Yes, Steve knows what torque steer is. And it has nothing to do with
transverse vs. longitudinal mounting...

 

You're making that up. There's no reason to suspect a connection between
crankshaft orientation and torque steer. If this link has been discovered
is, please post a link to someplace where it's explained by a competent SAE
member of some sort.

 

If you think torque steer depends on whether the engine is transverse or
not, you obviously don't know what it is.