3.0L V-6 Plymouth Minivan Question

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by C. E. White, Aug 4, 2003.

  1. C. E. White

    C. E. White Guest

    I need a quick opinion -

    Would having one cylinder with the compression down 30 to 40 lbs
    compared to the other five cause the check engine light to be set on a
    1998 Plymouth Grand Voyager minivan with the 3.0L V-6? I can't find
    anything else wrong. The mechanic is hesitant to do a valve job becasue
    he claims he has seen this before and fixing the compression did not fix
    the problem (and turn out the check engine light). He recommended
    dumping the van and buying something from another manufacturer (Ford,
    Toyota, GM, anything but another Chrysler product). I really trust this
    mechanic, so don't say he is a moron.

    Regards,

    Ed White
     
    C. E. White, Aug 4, 2003
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  2. C. E. White

    C. E. White Guest

    Misfire cylinder #5 (P0305). This code comes up consistently. I have been
    fighting this problem for months. Many things that have been done - Plugs
    (three times - the dealer, Western Auto and me) and wires (twice once at
    Western Auto and once by me), distributor cap, intake manifold gaskets
    replaced, swapped injectors around (misfire stayed the same), O2 sensor (old
    one looked bad on the diagnostic scan but there was no code), fuel filter
    (needed one). At first the light came on occasionally and sometimes went out
    by itself. Later, after I reset it, it would stay out from 1 day to 2 weeks.
    Now it comes on after a few miles. The mechanic is concerned that he will be
    able to fix the low compression, but not fix the light. He has had similar
    symptoms on two other mini vans with this same problem. In both cases he did a
    valve job and restored the compression, but the light kept returning despite
    an engine that seemed to be running perfectly. In my case, the problem is
    always the same (#5 misfire). The van runs OK and has about as much power as
    it ever had. I told the mechanic to do the valve job. I think he is worried it
    won't fix the problem and I will be mad at him. I think it will fix the
    problem and I won't be mad at him even if it doesn't. I think a cylinder that
    is 40 lb. less than normal (160 lb. or so) is out of spec. I was taught that
    the low cylinder needs to be within 75% of the high cylinder. This is engine
    is out of that range. Since I told him to just do it. I guess I'll know if the
    problem is solved soon enough.

    Regards,

    Ed White
     
    C. E. White, Aug 4, 2003
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  3. C. E. White

    Denny Guest

    This is like deja-vue. I've had 2 of these in the shop in the last few
    months. As much as your mechanic doesn't want to, pull the heads and do a
    valve job. Be sure to check the guides for any wear. I'll even go a can of
    Mug rootbeer that it fixes it...

    Denny
     
    Denny, Aug 5, 2003
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    jdoe Guest

    Vlave job should take care of things. The 3.0 is not a favorite of mine but
    it has a strong bottom end. The top end is what I don't like but then it's a
    mitsushitti. As far as the mechanic telling you to dump it for another mfgr.
    tell him to buzz off the attitude but next time get a 3.3 or 3.8. You'll
    have a much better product. (I'm a former 3.0 owner), and never again for
    me.
    Larry
     
    jdoe, Aug 5, 2003
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  5. C. E. White

    clare Guest

    Valve guides gone. Put on rebuilt heads, light will stay off. Bottom
    end of the MitsoShitty 6 is almost bullet proof.
     
    clare , Nov 15, 2003
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