3.0L cold ticking

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by SBlackfoot, Mar 4, 2006.

  1. SBlackfoot

    SBlackfoot Guest

    '93 Grand Voyager 3.0L, under 120k miles (190k kms). This winter it fairly
    suddenly developed a very loud ticking sound when cold. It goes away after a
    few minutes when it warms up. I switched from 10W30 to 5W30 "winter oil"
    synthetic blend hoping to quiet it down a tad with no change at all. I would
    say sticky lifter but I'm not sure if this thing even has lifters (as far as
    I know it's overhead cam, right?) or an exhaust leak at the heads. Any
    advise?
     
    SBlackfoot, Mar 4, 2006
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    David Dowell Guest

    Yes it has lifters. They are located in the tip of the rocker arms. Sounds
    like you may have something in one of the lifters (debris) that is holding
    the valve open. You might try some of the detergent you can buy for the
    oil. I believe that CD2 used to make a material like this. Good luck.
     
    David Dowell, Mar 4, 2006
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  3. SBlackfoot

    Bill Putney Guest

    They are more "correctly" referred to as "lash adjusters" in that
    geometry (i.e., when not directly in the path of the valve stem, or in
    the case of a push rod engine, in the path of the push rod - all lifters
    are lash adjusters, not all lash adjusters are "lifters" as the term is
    technically used). I know I'm being picky - please don't take offense.
    :) Not a big deal when people call them lifters - just thought I'd
    point that out.
    Actually, when a lifter/lash adjuster is "sticking" or "collapsed", it
    is the opposite - rather than a valve being held *open*, the valve is
    *not* opening, or is not opening enough. The noise in that situation is
    due to the excessive gap between rocker and valve stem or rocker and
    lifter/lash adjuster (goes along with the term "lash adjuster").
    It could be an exahust or intake leak that closes up with heat, but
    you're right - if it's a lifter/lash adjuster, some cleanout additive
    could "unstick it" - MMO, Sea Foam, or ATF are known to work well.

    Also, the anti-drainback valve in some oil filters is not as good as in
    others - they can leak down and you get more dry-run time on startup.
    The OP might review what filter model he is using and possibly change to
    one that is known to have a good ADB valve (one made of silicone - not
    nitrile - rubber).

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Mar 4, 2006
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