2006 Chrysler 300C LEMON

Discussion in 'Chrysler 300' started by Angelo D via CarKB.com, Jul 1, 2005.

  1. Angelo D via CarKB.com

    Steve Guest

    David wrote:

    since the tranny
    Its not "a Mercedes item." That particular transmission, while based on
    a Mercedes design, is different and is built in Kokomo, Indiana- a
    long-time Chrysler transmission factory.

    But I agree- this is probably the first time they've seen this complaint
    and are wanting to get factory involvement to figure it out (if its not
    just a troll as I still suspect somewhat... ;-)

    It bothers me a little bit when consumers have a problem, immediately
    call the product a "LEMON," and then insist that getting a replacement
    is somehow better than getting the original fixed. Fixed is fixed- its a
    machine, not a living organism. The fact that its been repaired doesn't
    make it somehow inferior to a brand new vehicle that didn't happen to
    have the problem from the factory.
     
    Steve, Jul 1, 2005
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  2. Angelo D via CarKB.com

    Steve Guest

    more like this, if you ask me:
     
    Steve, Jul 1, 2005
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  3. I only see one moron here David~ And thats YOU! You missed the point
    altogether..This is a brand new vehicle,get it? How does a dealership deliver
    a new vehicle in this condition?At a price of 44K dolars.get it? MORON!
     
    Angelo D via CarKB.com, Jul 1, 2005
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  4. Your a troll........Get a life dopey!
     
    Angelo D via CarKB.com, Jul 1, 2005
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    Sarge Guest

    Angelo D via CarKB.com wrote: "For the money I paid Sarge,,they should have
    "REPLACED" the vehicle with a
    completely new one,but.no,,now we have to suffer the aggravation of dealing
    with a "lemon" and constant trips back and forth to this dealer."

    They are following the law in regards to lemon law. The dealership is not
    going to give you a new vehicle unless require to either under the law or
    told to by the Chrysler corporation. Check your state's lemon law. You are
    required to have the vehicle repaired 3 times for the same problem.

    Direct quote from www.lemonlaw.com

    The New Jersey Lemon Law applies to new cars, both purchased and leased,
    which suffer a nonconformity; a defect or condition, which substantially
    impairs the use, value or safety; that cannot be repaired after three
    attempts by an authorized manufacturer's dealership. This nonconformity must
    first occur within the first 24 months or 18,000 miles, whichever comes
    first. The New Jersey Lemon Law also applies to vehicles that are in the
    shop for repair twenty (20) or more calendar days during the first year.

    It's important to note that even if your car falls outside of the
    limitations established by the Lemon Law, there are still Federal breach of
    warranty laws which apply. If your car has an original or extended
    manufacturer's warranty and has a problem that can't be fixed after three
    repair attempts, chances are we can help you.

    Sarge
     
    Sarge, Jul 1, 2005
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  6. Sure as hell didn't feel like it Tom.........But,,your probably right!
     
    Angelo D via CarKB.com, Jul 1, 2005
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    Angelo D via CarKB.com, Jul 1, 2005
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  8. Kepp your fingers crossed general.......
     
    Angelo D via CarKB.com, Jul 1, 2005
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    Angelo D via CarKB.com, Jul 1, 2005
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  10. Dear Mr.Beasley~ I wouldn't expect anything less from Chrysler tech. However,
    as I mentioned in earlier posts.I do not hold the "dealer" rsponsible as much
    as I do Chrysler.How do you deliver a vehicle to a dealer to sell in this
    condition? Where are the quality standards at the factory? This unit should
    have been tested before the odometer was connected.Then they would have found
    the problem,"BEFOREHAND"...but no,,this way they save on the cost of the unit
    being built on the line and let the dealer worry about it.Let the customer
    suffer the consequences.Why should the paying public have to "get the bugs
    out" of a new design? This is the growing problem in this country.The public
    be dammed.I know I won't be around to see it,but,,this country is doomed with
    your train of thought,sorry!
     
    Angelo D via CarKB.com, Jul 1, 2005
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    Angelo D via CarKB.com, Jul 1, 2005
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  12. A Neon is unacceptable. I had some intital problems with my 300C that
    caused three repairs for the same problem (finally found the problem - a
    screw was shorting out the PCM). This wasn't a major problem like yours but
    I was not happy after spending 36K and having a the "Check Engine" light
    come on the first day I drove it. The dealer provided a loaner each time, a
    Subaru Imprezza (they also sell Subarus). After the second time, I wouldn't
    accept that type of car for a loaner. After spending that much on a car and
    having it in the shop immediately, I wanted a better car. They obliged with
    no hassle. They gave me a Pacifica which they had to rent since they had
    none available as loaners off of their lot.
     
    Peter A. Stavrakoglou, Jul 1, 2005
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  13. The New Hampshire law is similar, the problem is the cost of getting them
    to replace the car if they can't fix it. In my partner's case they tried
    over and over to fix it but they were never able to correct the problem.
    Audi has tiger teams of expert mechanics that they send in when the dealer
    can't handle the problem, they weren't able to fix it either. With any
    other good the company would just replace it but car companies don't do
    that. You have to take them to arbitration and the arbitrator has to order
    them to do the right thing. There is no other industry that treats it's
    customers this way. If you went to Best Buy and bought a $10,000 plasma TV
    and it didn't work right they would just take it back and give you a
    replacement or your money back. They don't spend two years trying to fix
    it before they admit it's a lemon, they replace it on the spot and send
    the defective unit back to the manufacturer.
     
    General Schvantzkoph, Jul 1, 2005
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  14. On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:57:31 -0400, Daniel J. Stern wrote:



    This doesn't sound like a troll to me. These things happen, as I stated in
    a couple of other posts on this thread my business partner had the same
    kind of problem with an Audi.
     
    General Schvantzkoph, Jul 1, 2005
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    tim bur Guest

    have the dealer drop the trans pan and if any white fluid is present then the
    trans has to be flushed out a couple of times to correct the 4-5 gear shudder
    from the water getting into the trans fromm the bad seal at the dipstick tube
     
    tim bur, Jul 2, 2005
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  16. I did not write the above. Learn to attribute your quotes correctly.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jul 2, 2005
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    Chevy Neon? Sounds like a troll...

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Jul 2, 2005
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  18. Angelo D via CarKB.com

    Matt Whiting Guest

    How do you know that? They may well find and fix the problem and you'll
    be good as new, or in this case, better than new.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Jul 2, 2005
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    Dawgz83944 Guest

    God boohoo I have 3 friend that have 300c’s. 1) has 25251mi 2) has
    10367mi 3) has 546mi. All have no problems. I’m sure since you are
    familiar with mistakes (Chevy Neon) there can be wierd problems with a
    complicated piece of machinery like a car. I’m also sure that Mercedes
    who if I remember correctly made the tranny for the car knows what
    they are doing. However I also believe they should take care of it for
    no charge and since the cavalier has to have power steering either
    file a law suit or call DC and complain. Whining about it isn’t gonna
    fix anything. Don’t forget this car is all old Mercedes E Class except
    the engine. Rest assured they will fix the problem and it’s your fault
    you paid $44k for a $35k car. If no one paid $44k for the car then it
    would sell for what it’s worth. Just my .02
     
    Dawgz83944, Jul 2, 2005
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    Art Guest

    Lemon laws vary by state and some are very easy for the consumer to
    negotiate. Arbitrtion is voluntary for the consumer but binding on the
    manufacturer.
     
    Art, Jul 2, 2005
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