2005 Minivans

I like them; of course, I have a strange liking for the minivans. Must
be me getting older. I have a few questions, though.

A) My brother in law was looking at minis awhile back. He boiled it
down to a used T&C and a Honda Odyssey. He got the Odyssey (He likes
'em) but while we were looking, I had him check carpoint.com to look
at reliability issues. I expected Chrysler to have something about
trannies. It did, but it said that for the past 3 years the trannies
haven't been a concern and the quality has been good. It was nice to
see they got that behind them. What shocked me, though, was that the
Odysseys have been reported to have tranny problems for the past three
years, and that Honda bumped up their powertrain warranty to a 7/100
to cover it. Sure enough, his had a 7/100 warranty. Has anyone heard
about that? I never had heard of it, and it surprised me coming from
Honda. I don't particularly like Hondas (I prefer torque with my
engines) but had always respected them as very well built cars. It
also surprised me I never heard of it. IIRC One of the things that
hurt the Minivan vs. the Odyssey when the Odyssey first came out was
the Chryco tranny problems. (Honda, IMHO, also puts lie to the old
claim of the Chrysler execs that a small car company couldn't
survive.)

B) There were rumors a few years back of a 230 or 250 hp 3.5 litre
minivan. What happened? They have the engine, so why not? It would
give them a boost vs. the Quest/Odyssey engines.

C) Finally, The previous redesign Chrysler said it wasn't going to
have fold flat rear seats because they couldn't do that and have AWD.
Have they figured out how, or have they sacrificed AWD?

Thanks!

Jimbo

 

| I like them; of course, I have a strange liking for the minivans. Must
| be me getting older. I have a few questions, though.
|
| A) My brother in law was looking at minis awhile back. He boiled it
| down to a used T&C and a Honda Odyssey. He got the Odyssey (He likes
| 'em) but while we were looking, I had him check carpoint.com to look
| at reliability issues. I expected Chrysler to have something about
| trannies. It did, but it said that for the past 3 years the trannies
| haven't been a concern and the quality has been good. It was nice to
| see they got that behind them. What shocked me, though, was that the
| Odysseys have been reported to have tranny problems for the past three
| years, and that Honda bumped up their powertrain warranty to a 7/100
| to cover it. Sure enough, his had a 7/100 warranty. Has anyone heard
| about that? I never had heard of it, and it surprised me coming from
| Honda. I don't particularly like Hondas (I prefer torque with my
| engines) but had always respected them as very well built cars. It
| also surprised me I never heard of it. IIRC One of the things that
| hurt the Minivan vs. the Odyssey when the Odyssey first came out was
| the Chryco tranny problems. (Honda, IMHO, also puts lie to the old
| claim of the Chrysler execs that a small car company couldn't
| survive.)

Yes, a woman that workes for me has a 2001 Acura MDX with 60,000 miles. The
tranny went bad a couple of months back...$7,200 was the quote to replace it.
She screamed bloody murder and Honda covered all but $1,000 of the cost.

|
| B) There were rumors a few years back of a 230 or 250 hp 3.5 litre
| minivan. What happened? They have the engine, so why not? It would
| give them a boost vs. the Quest/Odyssey engines.

It's a minivan. Demographically, what percentage of mini-van buyers/owners are
concerned about that much horsepower? I believe that the 3.8 engine acheives
230 horses today. My 1997 has the 3.3 that rated 165 horses back then and I've
not had any horsepower problems...even driving on heavy mountain grades.

|
| C) Finally, The previous redesign Chrysler said it wasn't going to
| have fold flat rear seats because they couldn't do that and have AWD.
| Have they figured out how, or have they sacrificed AWD?
|

Good question...don't know the answer. Maybe AWD wasn't a big selling option?

| Thanks!
|
| Jimbo

 

i have a friend who wrenchs at a honda dealer and he does as many head
gaskets on hondas as i do on neons

 

Honda screwed up 2 AT's.... one in the Odessey and the other in an
Acura. They gave loaners when they ran out of AT's. Most customers
forgave them for the screw up but some were really pissed off. Been a
couple of newspaper articles about it. Honda does not let dealers
open up the AT's for warranty repairs so there was a 2 month wait at
one point for replacements.

 

The AWD feature is history.

The Chrysler 300C, Dodge Magnum and Chrysler Pacifica will all offer AWD, so
I don't think it will be a huge issue.

Final point - DCX Quality has improved significantly over the past three
years. Ask any DCX Service Manager - Warranty Work is no longer keeping the
shops filled.

Have a great week.


SBH

 

I was looking at a few of the last 300m's on the dealer lot and they
had obvious cosmetic quality flaws.

 

THAT comment really has a lot to do with the 2005 Minivans, doesn't it?????

 

Obviously you are not bright enuf to follow a thread. Maybe you
should sell your computer.

The post I was responding to and you cut off from your quote was:

"The AWD feature is history.

The Chrysler 300C, Dodge Magnum and Chrysler Pacifica will all offer
AWD, so
I don't think it will be a huge issue.

Final point - DCX Quality has improved significantly over the past
three
years. Ask any DCX Service Manager - Warranty Work is no longer
keeping the
shops filled.

Have a great week."

it?????

 

Yes, a**hole, I followed the thread and I knew what you were responding to.

and continued:

WHERE is the reference to 300M in the quote I cut off?????

Obviously you think what you say really means something. Guess what?????

 

exception will be the pacifica
this car has more electrical issues than i can ever remember any car
coming out with

 

What's wrong with it? Where do the problems lie?

--Geoff

 

REALLY?????!!!!! I haven't noticed any in mine and we have been driving it
since Aug. 29, it now has 7,554 miles on it. When do these "more electrical
issues than i can ever remember" start appearing or happening????? I find it
quite interesting that you always post some kind of random comment like this,
but when people ask you to define what you mean (like Geoff has done in his
reply to your post - and I am asking now), you never respond. Why don't you
turn your useless blather into something with merit, purpose and something
worth reading?????!!!!!

 

WOW, I must really have my head up my butt. I thought my Pacifica
was perfect since I have not had ANY PROBLEMS, Much less an electrical
problem with it. I guess I have been having problems and I didn't
know it. I HATE when that happens. I guess I better go sit in the
corner and cry, or better yet, go to a Pacifica site and yell and
scream about my POS CAR. I MUST have a POS because : "> > >exception
will be the pacifica
Thanks for letting me know about my car. I am sure glad we have
YOUR EXPERTIESE on here. No one would know ANYTHING IF YOU were not
here. Guess I will go find a used YUGO. Nothing can go wrong with
that car since there is nothing to it.

 

first the t.p.m systems when it went to the 2004 from late 2003 build and
the mexicans were putting 03 parts into 04's and i call them o3 due to the
early build dates.plus there is 2 part numbers for the pressue sensors for
the tires
the seat modules are failing and are on national backorder.185 so far
pcm's are on restriction due to a recall on the wiring and connectors for
the pcm
thats right a recall already and this doesn't include the keyless entry
issue because someone did not put a fuse in correctly. now the cluster
problems that is starting to show
up

 

Art is an import lover posing as a Chrysler fan. He's got nothing good to
say about Chrysler products, other than the fact that he owns a 300M and he
likes it better than his Avalon (who cares, Art? It just makes you stupid
50% of the time, rather than 100%) and that he's shopping for a Pacifica, or
is it maybe a minivan, but Idunno, the quality problems, they make him ask a
lot of stupid questions and give him plenty of opportunities to take a cheap
shot at the American autoworker, nevermind the fact that the foreign brands
he likes are also assembled in America. He's listed in the national dolt
registry alphabetically before Lloyd; you can safely ignore his posts.

He's probably a liberal, too.
--Geoff