2004 Sebring 4 cyl questions

Discussion in 'Sebring' started by Jeff Falkiner, Apr 1, 2005.

  1. A couple of questions/comments to the group on my wife's 2004 Sebring with
    2.4L:

    1) When I got it home, I was looking under the hood and noticed that the air
    intake snorkel attached to the upper rad mount had a WIRING HARNESS running
    right through the middle of it. Given that the snorkel inlet is only about
    4" x 3/4", this is a significant restriction. Moved it right out of the way
    and the car seems much happier. Got me to thinking though - given the
    redesigned head and intake that is tuned for low-end torque, is there
    anything I can do to "uncork" the intake on this car for a little better
    high-end? It's kind of too bad they messed with it - I swear that our
    Company pool car 1998 Breeze has more snap.

    2) Anyone know what the metal plate/cover that sits on the intake manifold
    downstream of the throttle body is for? It looks like a mount for a
    blow-off valve?

    3)There are two hoses that connect to the cam cover. One has what looks
    like the PCV valve in it and connects to the throttle body, but the other
    connects directly to the intake snorkel downstream of the air filter. Given
    that this hose has no restrictions, what good is the PCV valve?

    4) Anything else I should know about this motor?

    Thanks.

    Jeff Falkiner
    95 neon - currently waiting for open-heart surgery to fix a coolant breach
    99 Intrepid - the Green Monster
    04 Sebring - the Silver Bullet
     
    Jeff Falkiner, Apr 1, 2005
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  2. Jeff... it is what it is.. a 4 cyclinder in a Sebring

    Just enjoy the ride.. if it was horsepower you were looking for
    should have gotten a Crossfire or a 300C with a Hemi!
    :)

    stan


     
    The Commander, Apr 1, 2005
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  3. Jeff Falkiner

    Bill Putney Guest

    The two hoses are at totally different points in the intake system. The
    PCV hose is on the engine side of the throttle body. The breather tube
    is on the upstream side of the throttle body. You have to think in
    terms of what the vacuum levels are at those two points relative to the
    crankcase pressure situation at any given throttle and engine operating
    conditions to figure out what the flows will be. During throttle-closed
    conditions, air flows into the breather tube from the snorkel (IOW, a
    small part of the idle air is tapped off the snorkel and ends up back in
    the intake plenum thru the PCV valve and hose - same starting point,
    same end point, one took a detour thru the crankcase).

    During WOT, you have less vacuum in the intake plenum and more in the
    snorkel (than you have at idle), but both hoses are venting air to the
    intake from the crankcase while it is generating maximum blow by (which
    would otherwise tend to pressurize the crankcase).

    The PCV valve blocks any positive pressure pulses from backfires feeding
    back into the crankcase. The partial blocking by the throttle body and
    the more open nature of the snorkel back thru the air filter isolate
    that hose from major effects of backfires (making it into the crankcase).

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Apr 1, 2005
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  4. Yes, but I would have been asking the same questions about the Hemi -
    "what's this" and "can I economically get a bit more power".

    Cheers!
    Jeff
     
    Jeff Falkiner, Apr 1, 2005
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  5. Thanks Bill. As usual your comments are well thought out. Makes total
    sense once someone explains it. Had I thought about it more before putting
    fingers to keyboard (a common affliction in this group), I probably could
    have figured it out. It's still good to know that I can some here and get
    my questions answered. Having been a lurker and occasional poster for
    years, I know there are some good knowledgeable posters here.

    Jeff Falkiner
    95 neon - currently waiting for open-heart surgery to fix a coolant breach
    99 Intrepid - the Green Monster
    04 Sebring - the Silver Bullet
     
    Jeff Falkiner, Apr 1, 2005
    #5
  6. Jeff Falkiner

    David Cole Guest

    The sebring is significantly larger and therefore heavier so i would expect
    it to seem and feel more sluggish.
    That plate is probably a cover for where the EGR valve wouild sit if your
    engine was equipped. Rather than run off 2 different castings its more
    economical to produce one and cap the one which doesn't need the EGR valve
    (non california).
     
    David Cole, Jun 16, 2005
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