2001 LHS Airbags actuated

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Bob AZ, Jun 18, 2008.

  1. Bob  AZ

    Bob AZ Guest

    I was stopped. A red light runner got my 2001 LHS. Right front side
    swipe. Grill to right fender.

    Both airbags popped and of course will be replaced.

    Body shop says steering column must also be replaced. Is this
    standard? Will it be the whole column assembly including the steering
    wheel, stalk and controls, housing and all?

    Thanks for any comment or input.
     
    Bob AZ, Jun 18, 2008
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  2. Bob  AZ

    Bill Putney Guest

    The steering column is replaced as an assembly, meaning housing, shafts,
    bearings, pre-assembled unit. Stuff that is obviously attached
    peripherals (multifunction switch, top and bottom cover, steering wheel,
    etc.) would not be part of the column assembly.

    You aren't saying that the column has to be replaced simply because the
    bag went off? It would not be replaced unless the column itself was
    damaged. The airbag is easily R&R'd.

    I have to think they will total it out with the damage and both bags.
    Doesn't take much these days for them to do that when they get a little
    age and miles on them. With some cars, because of the cost of the
    airbag, with only a deployed bag and no other damage, the car gets
    totalled out.

    Bill Putney
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    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jun 18, 2008
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  3. Bob  AZ

    Bob AZ Guest

    You aren't saying that the column has to be replaced simply because the
    Bill

    Just had a talk with the Allstate adjuster/inspector.

    Airbags, Dash/cowl housing, instrument panel and the total steering
    gear must be replaced. The steering gear from the steering wheel to
    the pitman arm. The whole works.

    Other damage includes the grille, fender, some interior body parts,
    radiator and supports and the AC condenser. Approximately 10,600 plus
    anything unseen. Bluebook is 11,600. The insurance company will
    probably recommend totaling. I can buy it back for maybe 1000. With a
    salvage title.

    Bob AZ
     
    Bob AZ, Jun 18, 2008
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  4. Bob  AZ

    sqdancerLynn Guest

    sqdancerLynn, Jun 19, 2008
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  5. Bob  AZ

    Bill Putney Guest

    OK - apparently the damage went quite a bit deeper than I thought from
    your first post (not saying you mis-stated anything, just working from
    what I remember - not always a good idea). As long as the column is
    being replaced due to specific damage to it AND NOT SIMPLY BECAUSE THE
    AIR BAG DEPLOYED - that's my only point on that.

    So - you are saying that there was actual damage to dash/instrument
    panel, steering gear and column??

    Yeah - I went thru a total out/buy back on my '99 Concorde (same car
    mechanically with exception of the engine) about 4 months ago - all from
    damage to front passenger side fender, headlight, and relatively minor
    damage to the two doors on that side. I had an alignment shop check the
    alignment, I replaced that one headlight assembly, and I've been driving
    it on my 80 mile daily commute ever since. Oh - it was so *not*
    mechanically damaged that, after the accident, after I gathered my wits,
    I chased down the guy who ran me off the road for two miles at high
    speed with no mechanical problems whatsoever. But the blue book was
    pretty low owing to mileage at just shy of 200k.

    Anyway - enough about me. Sounds like your damage is more extensive. I
    think the ins. cos. generally total it out when the cost of restoration
    is something like 80% or more of the blue book - and they usually try to
    find the lowest blue book value they can to lo-ball you on the payout
    (and to bias the decision further towards totaling it out).

    As far as your buyback - I'd be surprised if it's that low. IIRC, on
    mine, it was in the $500 range.

    Good luck in dealing with that.

    Bill Putney
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    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jun 19, 2008
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  6. Bob  AZ

    Bill Putney Guest

    You might be right about that.
    Not necessarily true. The ins. co. told me that after a car is - I
    think they said - 6 (7?) years old or more, the law says that a salvage
    title is not issued. I don't know if that's specific to Virginia,
    and/or if other states have similar laws. I have totaled out/bought
    back two cars in the last 12 or so years, and neither one got re-titled.
    Looks like Bob's in Arizona (?), so I don't know how it works there.

    Bill Putney
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    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jun 19, 2008
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    Bill Putney Guest

    (Oops - hit send too soon...)

    But - Bob - that's something you need to specifically find out as it
    might (or might not) affect your decision.

    Bill Putney
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    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jun 19, 2008
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  8. Bob  AZ

    Bob AZ Guest

    Bill

    Not sure about the salvage time thing with AZ.

    Before I go on I should put in here that the car has 16,500 miles on
    it. A Sunday driver if there ever was one. Once to Las Vegas and twice
    to Phoenix from Tucson and the rest is Sunday driving. An occassional
    social drive but I made sure to drive it every Sunday to keep it ready
    to go. At the dealer when I would bring it in for service they kidded
    me about putting on another 1000 miles and did it need an overhaul!!

    So if you know where I can get a 2001 LHS in all but perfect condition
    with close to 16.5K miles on it please let me know. I would not have
    been willing to sell mine for 11.5.

    Take care
    Bob AZ
     
    Bob AZ, Jun 19, 2008
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  9. Bob  AZ

    Bill Putney Guest

    Yeah - how much did they *ADD* to the value for way under typical
    mileage - I'll bet not much if any. They sure know how to take the
    value off for high miles though.

    Find another '01 with under 20k miles on it!? You've got to be kidding.

    You might post to the 300M forums - there are some LHS owners there -
    some keep them up pretty well. One might be ready to sell and buy an M
    or a new challenger.

    Bill Putney
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    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jun 20, 2008
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    mr158912 Guest

    bill
    when air bags go off certain components inside the steering are designed to
    give way or break in a order and because of this the steering column gets
    replaced as well as some steering wheels
    as well as pretensoners if equipped,clocksprings and air bag modules
    a body shop using Reynolds and Reynolds and others
    has a complete list by car line what exactly needs to be replace when airbags
    are deployed
     
    mr158912, Jun 21, 2008
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