2001 Caravan SE 41TE/41AE Tranny Reliability

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Michael J. Linden, N9BDF, Jan 23, 2004.

  1. Michael J. Linden, N9BDF

    Tom Ruta Guest

    There is really not much diff in the AWD to FWD CC vans - I'd have
    both.
    I find the Pontiac vans to ride much worse than the CC's irrespective
    of drive system. And in a tip of the hat to CC, I'll say that our 03
    rides better than the 01 AWD and MUCH better than the 96 FWD
     
    Tom Ruta, Feb 1, 2004
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  2. Michael J. Linden, N9BDF

    Tom Ruta Guest

    On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 14:23:45 GMT, "Matthew S. Whiting"

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    And exactly what mistake did you correct? Heck, you've never even
    been in an AWD CC van.
     
    Tom Ruta, Feb 1, 2004
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  3. But then it would have the same reliability issues that people with
    Chryslers complain about. There is no free lunch. Some vehicles cost
    more than others, sometimes because of marketing and brand name
    established over many years, but often because the vehicle has better
    components and more careful assembly. It is very unlikely you will ever
    see a Honda or Toyota prices the same as a Chrysler now that the former
    have reputations for higher quality, maybe deserved, but my personal
    experience doesn't bear that out, least-wise not with Honda. My 84
    Accord was a POS and I haven't owned a Honda since and won't. You have
    to decide what is important to you, price or quality. If you really
    believe the Chrysler vans are inferior in the transmission department,
    then you shouldn't have any qualms paying the price Honda or Toyota is
    getting for their vans.


    Matt
     
    Matthew S. Whiting, Feb 1, 2004
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  4. Never been in a Pontiac van. My 03 GC doesn't ride any better than my
    96 GV, and it is noiser to boot! The exhaust has a noticeable rumble,
    especially right after the TC locks up at around 45-50 MPH. The 96
    van's exhaust noise is not detectable. The 96 also has less wind noise
    and this is a van with 146,000 miles on it vs. one with 35,000. And the
    interior of the 03 is much chintzier, especially the sliders for the
    temperature control and the remote mirror switches. It seems to me that
    Chrysler has really lowered the quality on the new model van. And they
    also did dumb things like move the brake release way down under the dash
    by the hood release so now they are both hard to reach.

    The only positive I've seen is the air filter appears to be much more
    accessible, but the coolant level is much harder to see now. All in
    all, I think the new vans have regressed from the old ones. If the
    newly designed 05 doesn't make a major step forward, I suspect Honda and
    Toyota will really begin to take serious market share from Chrysler and
    all Chrysler will have left is the fleet market.


    Matt
     
    Matthew S. Whiting, Feb 1, 2004
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  5. Correcting your comparison of the ride of a GM FWD van to an S10,
    because you obviously didn't know the difference between the Venture
    series and the Astro series. Nothing to do with an AWD Chrysler van, so
    my lack of experience there wasn't relevant.


    Matt
     
    Matthew S. Whiting, Feb 1, 2004
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  6. Michael J. Linden, N9BDF

    Tom Ruta Guest

    On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 20:25:35 GMT, "Matthew S. Whiting"

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    I have to agree with you here Matt - but 2K for 0 deductible 6 year
    warranty or 10 Gs more up front.. Hmmm... what to choose? <G>
     
    Tom Ruta, Feb 1, 2004
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  7. Michael J. Linden, N9BDF

    Tom Ruta Guest

    Change the ties - Michelin X-Ones are great.
    Right - out 01 had the dread 2000 rpm rumble. thankfully it was
    destroyed in a freak boating accident.
    Yeah, decontenting gone bad. No lights on the switches, etc.
    You have to watch like a hawk when you pull it or it'll crack your
    knuckles something fierce.

    My pet peeve is WTF changed the door lock knobs to stick up so you
    can't rest an elbow on the window sill.
    Have you seen the pix of the 05s? The thing that might drive me to
    the Japanese is the lack of comfort and flexibility of the fluff and
    fold seats.
     
    Tom Ruta, Feb 1, 2004
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  8. Michael J. Linden, N9BDF

    Tom Ruta Guest

    On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 20:32:51 GMT, "Matthew S. Whiting"

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    yeah, except for the 350 they are both a POS.
     
    Tom Ruta, Feb 1, 2004
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  9. Well, the good thing is that you have a choice, right? :)


    Matt
     
    Matthew S. Whiting, Feb 2, 2004
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  10. Nope, haven't seen anything on the 05 model, just read a few blurbs
    about it. In almost all certainty, my 03 will be my last minivan as my
    kids will be mostly gone by the time it bites the dust, hopefully, not
    for 8-10 years.


    Matt
     
    Matthew S. Whiting, Feb 2, 2004
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  11. Man, you should stop confirming my assertion! :)


    Matt
     
    Matthew S. Whiting, Feb 2, 2004
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  12. Michael J. Linden, N9BDF

    Tom Ruta Guest

    On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 10:52:22 GMT, "Matthew S. Whiting"

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    Yes, now I do. :) Besides the extended warranty is really quite nice
    - I take the car in for a leaky gas cap and thy put me in a new Laredo
    or Durango for the day so I can go 4-wheeling...
     
    Tom Ruta, Feb 2, 2004
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  13. Michael J. Linden, N9BDF

    Tom Ruta Guest

    We found that pre-kids the van was great for camping and mountain
    biking or bike racing. Internal racks keep the bikes safe and clean,
    etc. The "power wagons" like the Murano or Pacifica just don't have
    the room. Stylish, but disfuntional.
     
    Tom Ruta, Feb 2, 2004
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  14. Michael J. Linden, N9BDF

    Tom Ruta Guest

    I'm yakking generic GM. Having own lots of GM I LOVE the 350 but I do
    not like a whole lot else about them. And yes, I know that the
    minivan does not use the 350.
     
    Tom Ruta, Feb 2, 2004
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  15. Michael J. Linden, N9BDF

    Steve Guest

    Why? "Just because" doesn't cut it.
     
    Steve, Feb 2, 2004
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  16. Michael J. Linden, N9BDF

    Steve Guest

    It already DOES have those issues, simply because its a front-drive
    minivan like the Chrysler. The only way to get more reliability in heavy
    service is to go back to a rear-drive layout where you can physically
    fit bigger parts, IMO.
     
    Steve, Feb 2, 2004
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  17. Michael J. Linden, N9BDF

    Steve Guest

    Thanks Charlene. Everyone who disagrees "must work for Chrysler."

    I don't work in the automotive industry in any way shape or form, except
    as a hobbyist on my own vehicles.
     
    Steve, Feb 2, 2004
    #77
  18. I use my K1500 with a cap for camping, etc. And it has the advantage of
    being able to plow snow in the winter. Try that with a Pacifica, Murano
    or minivan!

    Matt
     
    Matthew S. Whiting, Feb 2, 2004
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  19. Michael J. Linden, N9BDF

    Tom Ruta Guest

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    get a new hobby. Or do charity work. Lee made enough off the backs of
    the likes of you.
     
    Tom Ruta, Feb 4, 2004
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  20. Michael J. Linden, N9BDF

    Tom Ruta Guest

    On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 23:48:56 GMT, "Matthew S. Whiting"

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    My day job pays enough that I do not have to shovel snow for beer
    money. :)
     
    Tom Ruta, Feb 4, 2004
    #80
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