2000 Concorde 3.2 Liter - trunk lock

Discussion in 'Concorde' started by Carey, Dec 22, 2006.

  1. Carey

    Carey Guest

    Need advice re: Electric trunk lock

    It stopped working a few years back and the dealer quoted over $500 to fix.

    Lately I decided to try it myself - went to junk yard and bought a new
    electric lock for the trunk. I swapped it out with the original and it
    still would not work with either the in-dash button nor the RKE switch.

    I have discovered that these switches actually control a second unit within
    the body control module - thus the high repair estimate.

    Is there a way to bypass the BCM and get this thing working?

    If not, and I have to replace the whole BCM, how do I do it and how do I
    get it to recognize my car (without buying a code reader, or with some
    cheap idiot light reader)?

    Or, is there an aftermarket product that will work with my existing RKE?

    Thanks,



    Carey
     
    Carey, Dec 22, 2006
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  2. Carey

    Bill Putney Guest

    Perhaps this will help:
    http://images20.fotki.com/v369/filepYFY/d19fb/4/42816/1994050/71540946.gif

    Bill Putney
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    Bill Putney, Dec 22, 2006
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  3. Carey

    Carey Guest

    That's the diagram I have as well (Haynes manual). Are you thinking the
    Deck Lid Release Solenoid can be R&R'd from the BCM? That would be nice.

    I found three identical solenoids in the fuse block at the end of the
    driver's side dash, which appear to control the various door locks. I
    unplugged and interchanged them with no change. The door locks all work
    with door switches and RKE, but the trunk lock doesn't work. I should have
    said this at first! Also, I used a meter to check supply voltage to
    ground at both terminals (and across each other) which plug into the
    truck lock when the switches were depressed, but no voltage. Also, I
    couldn't find any visible damage to the wires.

    Thanks so much for your reply!!!


    Carey
     
    Carey, Dec 22, 2006
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  4. Carey

    philthy Guest

    follow the wire from the trunk actuator forward when it's close to the drivers
    seat snipit off, cover the end you won't use and then attach the other end to one
    side of the trunk button then attach a fused battery feed wire to the other
    terminal of the switch and you have a working trunk release but it will not work
    with a keyfob
    it will work in a pinch
     
    philthy, Dec 23, 2006
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  5. Carey

    Bill Putney Guest

    You're welcome.

    Those three things in the fuse block are actually relays (similar to
    solenoids, but not the same). In that drawing I linked, the thing in
    the BCM labeled "Decklid Release Solenoid" is meant to mean the signal
    that controls the decklid release solenoid (the latch in the trunk lid)
    - and in fact in other schematics in the FSM showing that same BCM
    output is labeled "Decklid Release Control". Doesn't help when the
    manufacturers use inconsistent, and, in this case, incorrect terminology.

    Have you looked at that decklid release control signal with the
    voltmeter right at the BCM? That would confirm whether the problem is
    in the BCM or instead is a broken wire between the BCM and the trunk lid
    (I know - that would be too easy - but it is possible.

    Have you tried disconnecting the battery for five minutes (disconnect
    the ground connection at the negative jump post on the passenger side
    strut tower)? It isn't all that unusual for resetting the BCM likwe
    that to fix this type of problem - certainly wouldn't hurt to try.

    Bill Putney
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    Bill Putney, Dec 23, 2006
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  6. Carey

    Bill Putney Guest

    One wire to the switch is already connected to battery V+ thru a fuse -
    so he would not have to mess with that wire going to the switch. He
    would need to cut the wire between the switch and BCM and the wire
    betwen the BCM and the decklid solenoid, and splice the one wire from
    the switch to the wire going to the decklod solenoid to accomplish what
    you're getting at.
    The only concern would be if the switch could handle the solenoid
    current. Right now it only switches a low current signal input to the
    BCM. It might be OK directly driving the solenoid, but it is a
    consideration.

    Bill Putney
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    Bill Putney, Dec 23, 2006
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  7. Carey

    philthy Guest

    it's a 12volt 15 amp circuit

     
    philthy, Dec 24, 2006
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  8. Carey

    Bill Putney Guest

    You're saying that you know for a fact that the switch itself is
    designed for 15 amps even though the input to the BCM is probably a few
    tens of milliamps or less?

    What I am asking is are you saying the switch itself can handle the
    current of directly driving the solenoid, and how do you know that?

    Bill Putney
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    Bill Putney, Dec 24, 2006
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