2.7 L Engine

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by D. E. Smith, Sep 7, 2004.

  1. D. E. Smith

    D. E. Smith Guest

    I have heard some not too kind things about the 2.7 L Chrysler engine. Is
    there still an inherent problem in these engines that even regular
    maintenance won't circumvent? My daughter is looking for a vehicle to
    replace her Stratus that got flooded out last week, and she is finding a lot
    of 2.7L Stratuses. Any guidance is appreciated..

    Thanks in Advance
    Dennis

    sed55ATTyahooDOTTcom
     
    D. E. Smith, Sep 7, 2004
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  2. D. E. Smith

    Steve B. Guest

    Pretend the 2.7L is an illegal drug and "just say no". The engine has
    some serious issues and isn't worth taking the risk on.

    Steve B.
     
    Steve B., Sep 7, 2004
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  3. D. E. Smith

    D. E. Smith Guest

    Are they issues not covered by warranty? What are these issues?
     
    D. E. Smith, Sep 7, 2004
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  4. D. E. Smith

    Steve B. Guest

    Sludge is the biggest issue. Even when perfectly maintained this
    engine tends to sludge up. Some people are using only synthetic oil
    with more frequent changes to try to avoid the issue but only time
    will tell. Cam bearing failures tend to be common as well... Search
    google for "chrysler 2.7l sludge" and read until your hearts content.

    Chrysler should cover any failure under warranty. If you decide to
    get one make sure the oil is changed every 3k exactly and keep all
    recipts! Good luck whatever you decide.

    Steve B.
     
    Steve B., Sep 7, 2004
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  5. Sure they're covered by warranty -- as long as the warranty lasts and *if*
    you can prove you did maintenance to the satisfaction of the zone manager.
    Why set yourself up for the hassle? It's not nearly as good an engine as
    others are.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Sep 7, 2004
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  6. D. E. Smith

    D. E. Smith Guest

    Then I would be much better off with a 2.4 or 2.0 4-cyl or a 3.5L 6 ..
    Thanks.. we'll look for those. I can't believe that Daimler-Chrysler would
    keep such a problem child in production...pity...

    Thanks for the warnings..
     
    D. E. Smith, Sep 7, 2004
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  7. | Then I would be much better off with a 2.4 or 2.0 4-cyl or a 3.5L 6 ..
    | Thanks.. we'll look for those. I can't believe that Daimler-Chrysler would
    | keep such a problem child in production...pity...
    |
    | Thanks for the warnings..
    |
    | | > On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, D. E. Smith wrote:
    | >
    | >
    | > > > >I have heard some not too kind things about the 2.7 L Chrysler
    | > > > >engine. My daughter is looking for a vehicle to replace her Stratus
    | > > > >that got flooded out last week, and she is finding a lot of 2.7L
    | > > > >Stratuses. Any guidance is appreciated..
    | >
    | > > > Pretend the 2.7L is an illegal drug and "just say no". The engine has
    | > > > some serious issues and isn't worth taking the risk on.
    | >
    | > > Are they issues not covered by warranty? What are these issues?
    | >
    | > Sure they're covered by warranty -- as long as the warranty lasts and *if*
    | > you can prove you did maintenance to the satisfaction of the zone manager.
    | > Why set yourself up for the hassle? It's not nearly as good an engine as
    | > others are.
    |
    |

    I'm surprised too..it's the base engine on the new 300. I'm also surprised
    that they'd keep using it with the relatively long warranty coverage if it were
    as much of a problem as it seems to be.
     
    James C. Reeves, Sep 7, 2004
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  8. Is the 2.5L still available for the Stratus, or did the 2.7 replace
    it? Another option would be the 2.4.

    -Kirk Matheson
     
    Kirk Matheson, Sep 7, 2004
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  9. D. E. Smith

    D. E. Smith Guest

    All I have seen is the 2.4 and the 2.7.
    Is the 2.5L still available for the Stratus, or did the 2.7 replace
    it? Another option would be the 2.4.

    -Kirk Matheson[/QUOTE]
     
    D. E. Smith, Sep 8, 2004
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  10. D. E. Smith

    Bill Putney Guest

    My '99 Concorde with 2.7L is chugging along quite well at 125+k miles.
    It gets 80 miles a day of highway driving, regular oil change and filter
    change (with every oil change), and an additive as a pre-emptive against
    sludge. I bought it used at 58k miles. I would say that buying one used
    without knowing its history is something akin to Russian roulette,
    though, based on numerous accounts on various forums, it seems that if
    they're going to let loose, it generally happens in the neighborhood of
    60 to 80k miles. So make sure you get one with a lot of miles on it. 8^)

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Sep 10, 2004
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    rdtaxted Guest

    Wife has a 2004 Sebring Limited, has 7100 miles on it now, taking it this
    morning for it's 3rd oil change. Dealer does the oil change. U mentioned
    an additive along with oil and filter in your Concorde. What additive do u
    use ???

    TIA

    Rog
     
    rdtaxted, Sep 10, 2004
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  12. D. E. Smith

    Bill Putney Guest

    I put 1/4 qt. of Marvel Mystery Oil in the crankcase with each oil
    change (and change the filter with each oil change). Others report good
    success with a similar product called Sea Foam (in display areas of many
    auto parts stores). Alternatively, you may want to switch to synthetic
    instead - now's the time to make the switch if you're going to. If I
    was going to go to synth, I'd make my own blend by using 1 or 2 qts.
    non-synth to 4 or 3 qts. of synth (don't buy a commercial blend, because
    you don't know the proportions, and I guarantee you any uncertainty will
    be exploited by the manufacturer as far as pricing).

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Sep 11, 2004
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  13. D. E. Smith

    D. E. Smith Guest

    I thought you couldn't mix synth with non-synth...In my case, we purchased a
    certified '04 with 22K.
     
    D. E. Smith, Sep 12, 2004
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  14. D. E. Smith

    Bill Putney Guest

    D. E. Smith wrote:

    A common misconception. Commercial blends are on the shelf now.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Sep 13, 2004
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  15. D. E. Smith

    pawn Guest


    But is it a special mixture? Is it the same as simply mixing consumer
    synthetic and conventional oil off the shelf?

    The fact of the matter is, my dealership warned me against mixing the
    two as well (without explanation) and I did not take your advice to
    phase it in. I've got about 3500 miles on my first synth job. I
    believe I will stick to about this range with a new filter even with the
    synthetic.

    I'm starting to wonder just how prevalent the 2.7l problem is. I mean,
    I've known about it for about 6 months now, and I have yet to talk to
    someone, or read a post in here, etc., from someone who had theirs fail.
    Maybe it's just an unreasonable percentage of premature failures, but
    small nonetheless (e.g., less than maybe 20%). I'd sure like to see
    some hard statistics.

    BTW, how did your crank look when you took you oil pan off?
     
    pawn, Sep 13, 2004
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    High Sierra Guest

    What is the point of mixing Synthetic oil and regular oil. Seems to me any
    amount of regular oil in the synthetic will cancel any benefit.
     
    High Sierra, Sep 13, 2004
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    doc Guest

    Fairy tales can come true, it can hppen you. . . . .
     
    doc, Sep 13, 2004
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  18. D. E. Smith

    Bill Putney Guest

    Dilute - possibly. Cancel - no. However, there are supposedly some
    areas where non-synth is better than synth (something about piston
    scuffing from an article I read some years ago), and together they cover
    the bases. But it would not cancel the benefits.

    I don't think that the incentive behind commecial blends is purely to
    lower the cost of the oil itself. There are supposedly some synergistic
    technical benefits in a blend.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Sep 13, 2004
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  19. D. E. Smith

    Guest Guest

    The 2.7 is the six available in the current Stratus sedan, and the 2.4
    is the four. The Stratus coupe, made by Mitsubishi in Illinois has a
    3.0 six. I'm not sure what four they use in the coupe.
     
    Guest, Sep 25, 2004
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