1998 Plymouth Breeze 2.0L, Ongoing Problems

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Ralph Shapiro, Sep 26, 2006.

  1. Well, this is the strangest problem I've ever encountered.
    I was having Check Engine light problems, P0700 & P0725 codes.
    Took the car to non dealer for diags, they said TCM or crank position
    sensor bad, but couldn't say 100% which one, or if it would fix the
    intermittent problem.
    Replaced to date, input and output trans speed sensors (there was ATF in
    one of the connectors), trans fluid flush and replace with ATF +4 (at
    $8/quart!) Plugs and wires, fuel filter (who thought to mount this so you
    have to drop the tank, STUPID)
    I have swapped trans relays, there are two the same underhood.
    Checked fuses, OK. Cleaned all grounds under the hood, disconnected all TCM
    and ECM connectors and cleaned, wiring connector at trans (there was some
    ATF in this one, too), pulled and cleaned. Disconnected the connector on the
    cam position (?) sensor at back of head, it was full of oil from blown head
    gasket, cleaned and reconnected.
    So, nothing fixed, off to the dealer for diags. A few miles from the
    dealer, check engine light goes off! Trans seems to be acting normally.
    Don't leave the car, since intermittent problems are just a B(_)&((*)CH to
    find.
    Now, when cold the trans sometimes slams on the 1-2 shift, almost feels
    like it is slipping on shift, sometimes. When this happens, 2 -3 shift is
    harder than normal. Still sometimes will go into limp, but then goes back to
    normal operation. At no time since the Check Engine light went off has it
    come back on.
    Well, I'm really frustrated at this point. This car has 63K, and just
    doesn't seem like it should be this screwed up.
    I've already spent $600, and the car is only worth $3500!
    Any suggestions, besides a cracking good underhood fire?
     
    Ralph Shapiro, Sep 26, 2006
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  2. Ralph Shapiro

    DeserTBoB Guest

    Replace the TCM. I have a friend with the same car that had nearly
    the exact symptoms (although not as many!), and a new TCM cured the
    trouble code and cured a runaway 1-2. Don't know if he had a firm
    2-3, though. Until the new TCM was installed, the slippy 1-2 was
    constant, as was the code/light.
     
    DeserTBoB, Sep 26, 2006
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  3. Ralph Shapiro

    sqdancerLynn Guest

    sqdancerLynn, Sep 28, 2006
    #3
  4. Well, took it to the dealer. They got into the problem and it appears that I
    got an inferior quality input sensor from Auto Zone. The connector appears
    to be not correctly sized for the wiring connector, providing intermittant
    connection. OEM sensor, at $30, seems like the ticket.
    I'll post again after I drive some more miles.
     
    Ralph Shapiro, Oct 2, 2006
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  5. Well, this is really annoying! After trip to the dealer, and input sensor
    replacement, I thought everything was fine. All symptoms gone. Took it for a
    30 + mile drive this weekend and when I got off the freeway, check engine
    light back on!
    Went into limp mode, so I parked it and had food. Came back out, shifting
    fine, check engine still on. Drive about 15 miles, check engine light went
    off, working fine (for now)
    Well, I'm into this about $700, and still no fix! Dealer states that TCM
    usually OK on this car.
    Any suggestions on how to get this fixed? Any and all problems found by the
    readers of this, related to this problem might help.
    I'm really disappointed that at 63K, and regular service, that this is
    happening.
    Newt car will be an import, for sure...
     
    Ralph Shapiro, Oct 9, 2006
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