1997 LHS spark plug wire replacement

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by katherat, Jun 30, 2010.

  1. katherat

    katherat Guest

    I understand that my LHS has Coil-on-plug ignition.
    Apparently that is why the replacement splark plug wire set that I
    just ordered has those long plastic tubes?
    How do I remove the existing wires?
    When I pull up on the forward-most spark plug wire on the passenger
    side (which seems to be the most accessible) it doesn't seem to want
    to move and I don't want to break it with too much force.
    Is there a detail or trick to removing these that I should be aware
    of?
    Any help will be appreciated...
     
    katherat, Jun 30, 2010
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  2. katherat

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    If it does, it's not a 97.
    If it's a 97, it does not have coil on plug ignition.
    If your engine has spark plug wires, it is definitely not coil on plug.

    The "long plastic tubes" are because the spark plugs are deep in the
    cylinder head.
    Twist and pull.
     
    aarcuda69062, Jul 1, 2010
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  3. katherat

    rob Guest

    rob, Jul 1, 2010
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  4. katherat

    katherat Guest

    Thanks to aarcuda69062 and rob for the information.
    I have managed to remove the forwardmost passenger side plug wire.
    I'll probably replace the plugs this weekend.
    It could be easier if there were more slack in the wires and fewer
    competing wiring passing in the vicinity... not to mention the way
    they are inset into the manifold...
    What is the cylinder numbering scheme on this 6-cyl engine?
    I am getting a P0305 engine code...
     
    katherat, Jul 2, 2010
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  5. katherat

    rob Guest

    first cyl on passenger side is #1 cyl on 3.5s. not familiar with the other
    engines

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/robs446/4756117510/

    fishing the wires out from under the intake just takes a little patience.


    Thanks to aarcuda69062 and rob for the information.
    I have managed to remove the forwardmost passenger side plug wire.
    I'll probably replace the plugs this weekend.
    It could be easier if there were more slack in the wires and fewer
    competing wiring passing in the vicinity... not to mention the way
    they are inset into the manifold...
    What is the cylinder numbering scheme on this 6-cyl engine?
    I am getting a P0305 engine code...
     
    rob, Jul 2, 2010
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  6. katherat

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    Passenger side front to back 1-3-5
    Drivers side front to back 2-4-6
    You have a leaking lower intake manifold gasket.
     
    aarcuda69062, Jul 3, 2010
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  7. katherat

    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    You have a miss in cylinder 5 (diagnostic codes can be googled!). When
    my wife's intrepid had that code, the problem was that the plugs were
    worn out.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Jul 3, 2010
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  8. katherat

    rob Guest

    alldata verifies PO305 is miss in #5 cyl.


     
    rob, Jul 3, 2010
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  9. katherat

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    You mean 'they.'
    Not necessary for me to do so.
    And since this engine was introduced, I've seen 80-90 instances where it
    was a leaking lower intake gasket.
     
    aarcuda69062, Jul 3, 2010
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  10. katherat

    katherat Guest

    Joe:
    I am well aware that diagnostic ciodes can be googled.
    I guess I should have said that I know that a P0305 comes back to a
    "cylinder 5" issue.
    I am trying to determine what my cylinder numbering is...
    I have done a limited amount of googling for LHS cylinder numbering
    without solid result...
     
    katherat, Jul 3, 2010
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  11. katherat

    katherat Guest

    How complicated to fix a leaking lower intake gasket?
     
    katherat, Jul 3, 2010
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  12. katherat

    rob Guest

    "How complicated to fix a leaking lower intake gasket?"

    not hard but make sure what the problem is though before you go that far.
    check the plug and wire for any damage or evidence of running lean, rich,
    burning oil, etc. it may only be a bad plug or wire or it may be deeper in
    the lower intake, valves piston etc. but start with your plugs and wires
    first. should be the back cylinder on passenger side.
     
    rob, Jul 3, 2010
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  13. katherat

    katherat Guest

    will do.
    BTW, would a "miss" suggest against the gasket?

     
    katherat, Jul 5, 2010
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  14. katherat

    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    Sorry, most of the time when people post a code they want a
    translation. aarcuda jumped straight from "what is the code telling me"
    to "what he's most frequently seen as the cause", and I wanted to pull
    it back to the actual code translation. Since you're already trying to
    replace the wires (and plugs?) I'd guess you're already seeing some sort
    of symptom leading you to believe they need to be replaced.
    For the 2nd generation LH cars, it was in the FSM. I'd expect it to be
    in the 1st as well....
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Jul 5, 2010
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  15. katherat

    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    No. You know you've got a miss; there are a million possible causes
    from bad plugs to a clogged fuel injector to a burned valve to a leaky
    lower intake manifold gasket to a cracked head to....

    Start by completing the job you've already started (plugs and wires) and
    see if it goes away. Of all the causes I can think of off-hand, that's
    far and away the easiest and cheapest thing to fix -- especially since
    you're already doing it! If you've still got it after that, it's time
    to dig deeper.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Jul 5, 2010
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