1995 Plymouth Acclaim New Owner

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by jmcgill89, Nov 28, 2005.

  1. jmcgill89

    jmcgill89 Guest

    I just bought a '95 Acclaim with 140,000 miles to use as a commuter
    car. It's got the 3.0 V6 and a 3 speed auto. I changed the oil
    yesterday and added 4.5 quarts of oil to the motor as per the manual.
    Now, unlike before, I get a flickering oil pressure light when I stop
    at stop lights, but it goes away quickly when I begin to move? Am I
    just low on oil? or has my engine gone out on me in one day?

    Also, I can't get an accurate reading with my dipstick.....I can't
    discern any spot where the oil level is.

    It was a cheapie, but I LOVE this car already, any help with these
    issues is greatly appreciated.
     
    jmcgill89, Nov 28, 2005
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    My Acclaim had the 2.5 rather than the 3.0, but 4.5 quarts is what it
    required when you changed the filter as well as the oil, which I always
    did. Are you sure you put in 4.5 quarts? If you can't see any oil on
    the dipstick after putting in this much oil, then something is fishy.
    Either you have the wrong dipstick, you put the oil in something other
    than the crankcase, or you have a leak and it has leaked out. The fact
    that the oil light is flickering tends to suggest that it really is low
    on oil and thus may take suspicion away from the dipstick.

    I'd put another quart or two in, at least enough to register on the
    dipstick and see if the light stays out. Might also want to find
    someone with another 3.0 and compare your dipstick to theirs to see if
    the length and markings are the same.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Nov 28, 2005
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  3. What viscosity grade of oil did you use?
    Erm...you can't? That's certainly odd. You do know how to check properly
    (pull, wipe, reinsert, pull, read), right?
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Nov 28, 2005
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    maxpower Guest

    If you are sure that you put the proper amount of oil in don't overfill to
    eliminate a problem that wont go away. If the engine is not making any noise
    and you see oil getting to the top of the valve train you no it is getting
    properly lubed. Do an oil pressure test to ease the mind and install a new
    oil pressure sending unit and be on your way. Then double check the dipstick
    for proper readings, sometime you have to clean it off really good to see
    the oil on it as you pull it out

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Nov 28, 2005
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    jmcgill Guest

    Perhaps I should have been clearer about the dipstick. It's not that I
    can't see any oil on it, it's just that the oil is smeared all the way
    up past the marks, and I can't get a good reading. I put 4.5 quarts,
    4.7 if you count what I added because the light was flickering.

    No leaks that I could find. My oil pan gasket needs changed, but that
    wouldn't have caused a huge leakage in one day.

    How do I go about finding and replacing the sensor and or test the
    pressure?

    Also, I'm having an issue with my temperature gauge and gasoline gagues
    not being consistent. For the Temp gauge, it will start out at about
    halfway, then go down to almost cool when I'm moving, but go up to
    almost hot when I'm idling. For the gas gauge, it won't register any
    more than 3/4 tank when full, and it can fluctuate by more than 1/4
    tank when I'm making turns at speed.

    Any ideas about this?
     
    jmcgill, Nov 28, 2005
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    This often happens when the engine is hot. I tend to check my oil when
    things are cold. Then the oil pretty much stays in place while you
    remove the dipstick.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Nov 28, 2005
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    jmcgill Guest

    Well, It's not been as bad with the flickering today on the way to
    work. Ironically, it seemed to do better when I switched the A/C on
    (It's like 60 here in DC). That being said, I don't get any
    discernible difference when I push in the A/C button....no light,
    nothing. Do I have a blown fuse, or is there something more wrong?

    Just getting used to the new ride.
     
    jmcgill, Nov 29, 2005
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    Steve Guest

    Purchased a '93 Acclaim two years ago with a 2.5 engine.

    It has been great for me as well. When I changed the oil on mine, the
    oil pressure
    indication did something similiar to yours although I did not get any
    oil pressure light
    flicker. Just a dip in the oil pressure on the gauge when stopped for
    lights. I use
    5W30 oil as I believe most MOPAR engines of that time used that oil
    grade.

    Could it be that the oil pressure sensor needs to be replaced? I use
    to drive an '86
    New Yorker with a 2.2 engine and the oil pressure sensor went on it and
    the flickering
    oil pressure light was the indication.

    By the way, I just replaced the Oxygen sensor on the Acclaim in
    September as my
    gas mileage had been declining for the last year. Before I changed the
    O2 sensor,
    I was getting approximately 500 kilometers per tank. After the sensor
    change, I'm
    getting 750-800 kilometers per tank (as long as temperatures are mild).
    The sensor
    has already paid for itself during the gas price spike during October.

    Steve
     
    Steve, Nov 29, 2005
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    jmcgill Guest

    I'm going to check out the oxygen sensor in my car as well as the oil
    pressure sensor. It's running great, and I'm very happy at this
    point.....aside from the fact that the AC appears to need a recharge.

    I have noticed that the oil pressure light does not flicker when the AC
    is on (button pushed in)....perhaps the car's idle is higher when the
    compressor is running.
     
    jmcgill, Nov 29, 2005
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  10. 10w30 is more appropriate at this stage of that engine's life.

    Certainly could be.
    Hope you didn't use a Bosch, or you'll soon get to do it again (and again,
    and again, until you start using a different brand).
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Nov 29, 2005
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    Bill Putney Guest

    I agree with the other opinions that say that the oil light flicker
    almost certainly indicates that the oil pressure sensor switch (not
    sending unit, which technically provides an analog signal to a gage -
    you don't have that - you have a switch which controls an idiot light)
    needs to be replaced (but if it will make you feel better, have the
    pressure checked by someone who will not try to flim-flam you). And yes
    - when you turn your a.c. on, the idle gets compensated to a higher
    speed, so the flicker stops - typical of a bad oil pressure switch.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Nov 30, 2005
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  12. Bill, SHAME on you. Only the losers at General Motors think there is any
    such a thing as a dashboard "gage".

    You're not a loser at General Motors...are you?
    He might or might not, depending on whether he has the plain or fancy
    instrument cluster. The plain one hasn't got an oil pressure gauge. The
    fancy one does. Both have an idiot light. A combination sender-switch is
    used with the fancy cluster.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Nov 30, 2005
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    jmcgill Guest

    No, I've got the plain instrument cluster. I'm awaiting my service
    manual for the car, as I'd like to do these repairs myself. I think I
    can do most of them except the serpentine belt.

    BTW, is the oil pressure sensor switch near the oil filter on the
    underside of the engine?

    Anybody out there have any success with those do-it-yourself AC
    recharge kits?

    Also, I think I need to either bleed my cooling system or install a new
    thermostat because my temperature gauge varies wildly depending on
    whether I'm sitting or driving.

    Also, also, What would cause a gas gauge to vary by as much as 1/4 tank
    when taking turns?

    Sorry for the Questions, but I'm loving my car.
     
    jmcgill, Nov 30, 2005
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    Bob Shuman Guest

    The recharge kits work fine. I'd suggest you get a set of gauges as well.
    The problem here is generally there is a leak that caused the refrigerant to
    escape and the cheap and easy recharge will work for a day or two if you are
    lucky. It generally requires an expensive diagnosis and part replacement.
    Hope your results differ. Post your result and actions you take for the
    benefit of others.

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Nov 30, 2005
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  15. Hope you got the *factory* manual, not the junk from Haynes.
    Don't remember where it is on the 3.0. This will be in the manual.
    Depends what you're trying to do. If you're just trying to get by until
    you sell the car, they're fine. If you want it fixed properly, without
    damaging the system, then the DIY kit is not the way to go. Properly-done
    A/C work is more complex than it seems.
    These two problems could well be related, since the fuel and temp gauges
    share a common voltage controller. That is: Could be a gauge problem
    rather than a temperature problem.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Nov 30, 2005
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    jmcgill Guest

    I'll have to give that voltage problem a look on the gauges...I'd hate
    to have to replace that cluster.

    I got my new oil pressure sensor, and I'm unfortunately, the manual is
    the haynes or Chilton manual, I can't locate a chrysler one online
    right now.
     
    jmcgill, Nov 30, 2005
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  17. Why? They're neither expensive nor difficult to replace.
    Garbage. Contains way too much wrong information, and a great deal of
    needed info is missing. Using it is counterproductive.
    They're available most of the time on eBay, and you can get 'em new over
    the parts counter at the dealer service department. Or, you can get a
    1-year www.alldatadiy.com subscription for $25, which gives you all the
    factory info including TSBs and wiring diagrams.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 1, 2005
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    jmcgill Guest

    First off, I've never replaced an instrument cluster before, so I
    really have no idea what I'm doing. Until I get SOME KIND of manual,
    I'm not going to touch anything that has to do with electric components
    or gauges.

    I really don't even know what is wrong with the damned thing. Even
    when full (overflowing) the gas gauge never shows more than 3/4
    tank.....and the level shown on the gauge varies wildly when turning.
    The behavior of the temp gauge is not quite that weird.....especially
    when turning.
     
    jmcgill, Dec 1, 2005
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  19. OK, fair enough. It really is exceptionally easy, though. Requires little
    more than a philips head screwdriver and 10 minutes' time.
    If you're getting variation when turning, then one of two things is
    happening: Either the gauge sender (in the tank, part of the fuel pump) is
    faulty, or the gauge head itself (in the dashboard) is faulty. Is the
    behavior exactly the same whether you turn right or left? Or is it
    different right vs. left?
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 1, 2005
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    clemslay Guest

    Where is the oil light in the fancy one?

    Is there a "Check Gages" light in the fancy one?

    I was surprised when I discovered that the plain
    one has a "Low Fuel" light.
    I should say rather an icon that 10 seconds of
    mental decoding tells one "oh, it must
    be a gas pump, fuel must be low". :)
    Like the oil can light.

    Thanks.
     
    clemslay, Dec 2, 2005
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