1994 Plymouth Sundance 2.2L - runs poor when engine cold

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Kevin, Dec 7, 2005.

  1. Kevin

    Kevin Guest

    Hello!

    I have a 1994 Sundance with the 2.2L engine and I am having a lot of trouble
    with it when the engine is cold (first thing in the morning) It has only
    been happening recently, but I am not 100% convinced it is just the cold
    weather as opposed to the engine not being at operating temp. We had a
    couple nice days and it still didnt run too great, but it was a little
    better.

    What is happening is it will NOT respond to stepping on the gas... I mean
    starting from a start, it takes about 20 seconds sometimes to cross a
    street... same thing to get out of an intersection after a red light... once
    up to speed, its okay, but if I stomp on the gas, it will bog down as if it
    will stall... it has not stalled yet, but I fear the problem will get worse.

    When I bought the car, there was no hose that is to get warm air from around
    the engine into the air cleaner assembly, and I was told I had to install
    that in order to get it certified... I bought one and attached it to the air
    cleaner assembly, but could not, for the life of me, find anywhere to put
    the other end! I looked everywhere, but ended up just tucking it in to the
    back of the engine somewhere... could this be the problem?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks,
    Kevin
     
    Kevin, Dec 7, 2005
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  2. It certainly could. Just tucking into the back of the engine is the wrong
    way to do it. There's a sheetmetal shroud around the exhaust manifold,
    called the "heat stove", where that air preheater hose needs to attach. If
    it is not attached there, you can get surprisingly severe driveability
    problems at cold ambient and engine temperatures. Maybe your heat stove is
    missing; if so it needs to be replaced.

    Beyond that, depending on the state of maintenance of the vehicle (what
    else is missing or improperly put together or neglected?), you may need to
    pay some attention to the ignition system, the fuel and air filters, the
    PCV system, the rubber hoses and elbows surrounding the throttle body, or
    other components. You may want to check for any stored trouble codes.

    To check the computer codes:

    With the engine off, switch the ignition key on-off-on-off-on,
    leaving it "ON". Do not
    go to "start", just "on" during this procedure.

    Watch the "Check Engine" or "Power Loss" light. It will turn on, then go
    off, then will begin to flash-out any trouble codes that have been stored.
    For instance, if it flashes:

    flash <pause> flash flash
    <long pause>
    flash flash flash <pause> flash flash flash flash flash
    <long pause>
    flash flash flash flash flash <pause> flash flash flash flash flash

    Then you have a 12 (one flash followed by two) a 35 (three and five) and a
    55 (five and five). 55 means "end of codes" or, if by itself, "No codes
    stored. Check the codes and report what you find.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 7, 2005
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  3. Kevin

    Kevin Guest

    Okay I guess I will make a trip to the wreckers (junk yard) to pick up a
    heat stove, as there is definitely nothing on the exhaust manifold... I
    thought something must be missing! Hopefully that takes care of it.

    I just replaced the Fuel Filter, Air Filter, Spark Plugs, Cap and Rotor and
    the wires and even though that helped make the car run quite a bit smoother
    in general, it did not do a thing for this issue.

    Thanks very much for the good response and for the instructions on getting
    the codes! Thats awesome... nice little trick :eek:)

    off to work I go! (I hate cars!!!)
     
    Kevin, Dec 8, 2005
    #3
  4. Very wide interchangeability. Any '87 to '95 Chrysler, Dodge or Plymouth
    vehicle with a 2.2 or 2.5 litre nonturbo 4-cylinder engine will supply
    the part you need.
    Good.

    You will probably want to pay attention to the usually-neglected crankcase
    ventillation system on your car, see http://tinyurl.com/yr2pg except do
    not substitute the PCV valve as discussed in the linked article.
    Sooo....did you find any codes?
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 8, 2005
    #4
  5. Kevin

    Kevin Guest

    Okay, I was finally able to get the codes for this car and it only gives me
    a 55...

    flash flash flash flash flash <pause> flash flash flash flash flash

    I was not able to get to the wreckers this weekend due to weather here (the
    snow is horrendous) but Im guessing I really need to get that heat stove and
    check the PCV system...

    Thanks again!
    Kevin
     
    Kevin, Dec 12, 2005
    #5
  6. No trouble codes stored.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 12, 2005
    #6
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