1993 Caravan OH console on a '92...?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Hachiroku ハチロク, Apr 10, 2010.

  1. I bought a '93 OH console with the digital display but the guy I bought
    the van from cut the harness! I could go to a bone yard and try to find
    one; other than that is there any way to get a diagram of the wiring so I
    can try to cob one together?

    I already Googled. Hopefully someone has some first-hand info...?
     
    Hachiroku ハチロク, Apr 10, 2010
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  2. Hachiroku ハチロク

    Bill Putney Guest

    You're probably looking for something free, but if you were willing to
    spend $25 bucks for it, you could get a 1 year subscription to
    www.alldata.com, which would include the factory schematics specific to
    the year and vehicle.
     
    Bill Putney, Apr 10, 2010
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  3. I'm always looking for something for free. Isn't that what the Internet,
    and especially the groups for? To pick brains?

    Other than that, will the $25 cover only ONE vehicle, or the 4 I have on
    the road currently?
     
    Hachiroku ハチロク, Apr 10, 2010
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Price drops for multiple vehicles and for multiple years. The best
    things about the subscription is that you do get the complete factory
    schematics (not "typical" multi-year, multi-platform schematics found in
    aftermarket manuals) and the TSB's that are applicable to that vehicle.
    The procedural repair info. is generally right out of the FSM, but is
    spotty - if you're lucky the info. you need is there, if unlucky, that
    particular info. was left out.
     
    Bill Putney, Apr 10, 2010
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  5. Hachiroku ハチロク

    Bill Guest

    I'm always looking for something for free. Isn't that what the Internet,
    You get what you pay for! The printed factory service manual set of books
    costs around $150. The same factory information which alldata has. FYI both
    would have *complete* wiring diagrams of the entire vehicle.

    I've been working in the electrical business all my life [very experienced].
    I would not even try to install that console without the factory wiring
    diagrams. (That is unless it was something simple like just a light and just
    needed power for the light.)
     
    Bill, Apr 10, 2010
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    Scott Dorsey Guest

    In some ways the data is less complete than what is in the FSM, but it
    is always updated. That's a big deal on a new car where bugs are still
    being found, it's a total non-issue on a 25-year-old car where all the
    common problems were found long ago.

    But it is a LOT less expensive than the FSM. I don't think it's a real
    substitute for having the real shop manual but it's a tiny fraction of
    the cost.

    On the other hand, you can sometimes get the shop manuals for older cars
    inexpensively on Ebay... I think I paid $25 for the electrical volume for
    my E28 and then $50 for the engine volume.
    --scott
     
    Scott Dorsey, Apr 10, 2010
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  7. Thanks for the advice, guys but we're talking an 18 year old vehicle I
    paid $150 for on eBay with 240,000 miles. If it had only 125,000 like my
    last one I might invest a little more money in it; while it runs well it's
    expected life at this point is a big question mark.
     
    Hachiroku ハチロク, Apr 10, 2010
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    Steve W. Guest

    Drop me a note and I'll see what I can do to help.
    remove NOT from the address and mention the group.
     
    Steve W., Apr 10, 2010
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Yes - to be clear as I said, schematics are complete, the rest of the
    info. is very spotty/incomplete.
     
    Bill Putney, Apr 10, 2010
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  10. Hachiroku ハチロク

    Bill Putney Guest

    I agree with everything you said, though I would just emphasize more
    that the information contained in it is *far* *from* complete (other
    than the schematics, which are complete).
     
    Bill Putney, Apr 10, 2010
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  11. Hachiroku ハチロク

    Bill Putney Guest

    But do you put any value on your time? If the schematics save you two
    hours, is that a good trade off for the $25? Funny how people won't
    spend $30 on an old vehicle, but they will spend 5 hours to avoid
    spending the $25. If you put *any* value on your time and use the same
    logic, then does that mean if you have to put more than 3 hours into it,
    you junk it? Of course now, if you call it a hobby, you can do whatever
    the heck you want and not have to justify it. :) (obviously you don't
    have to justify anything to anyone anyway)
     
    Bill Putney, Apr 10, 2010
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  12. This just about nails it!

    I buy old cars, put a couple hundred $$$ into them, drive them for 2-4
    years and then go looking for the next.

    Except my Supra, of course. There is a copy of the shop manual on line,
    and a computer in my garage.
     
    Hachiroku ハチロク, Apr 10, 2010
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    Steve W. Guest

    Check you mail....
     
    Steve W., Apr 10, 2010
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    wws Guest

    I wouldn't say pick.
    I would however say share.
    Everyone brings something to the table.
    Your wiring fable says to me you have not seen even one wire, much
    less counted them.
    FAIL!
     
    wws, Apr 11, 2010
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    wws Guest

    Oh I see, put a $100 console in $150 car.
    FAIL!
     
    wws, Apr 11, 2010
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  16. Does anyone know WTF this idiot is talking about?
    "Wiring fable"? I used to wire up large aircraft engine controls, point to
    point.

    So here's the fable: I have a bundle of wires sticking out from the
    headliner that are supposed to attach to an overhead console. The
    connector has been cut off. So, do you have an idea what wire goes where,
    or where I can get a wiring diagram so I can rewire it myself, or are you
    just going to be a big mouth with nothing to say, but are going to
    say it anyway?
     
    Hachiroku ハチロク, Apr 11, 2010
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  17. Who paid $100 for it? Maybe you might do something that foolish, but I got
    it for $15, working. And I got it as much for the dome lights as I did for
    the trip computer. I like to do things the right way, and not string up a
    bunch of "really KEWL blue LEDS" like it sounds you would. So, do you have
    an idea of what wire goes where? Didn't think so. Thanks for playing,
    troll!
     
    Hachiroku ハチロク, Apr 11, 2010
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    aemeijers Guest

    They may be rather hard to make out, but the wires should be color
    coded. Leastways they are on all the Chrylser vans I have had. (91, 95,
    05.) Local scrap yard, if they have any that old, would likely sell you
    that end of the wire harness pretty cheap. (Not like anybody is gonna
    buy the whole harness for a 92) Just match up the colors and use butt
    connectors.

    Note that Chrysler DOES change the wiring harness from year to year,
    usually to make it cheaper. I wanted to backdate some dashboard stuff on
    my 05 to what the 01 through 03 had. (ie, add another power socket, to
    replace the plug where the second switched one used to go. Dealer
    claimed the pigtails would be hanging in there. Nope. To save a quarter
    per car, they eliminated that wire. I had to use vampire tap and power
    it from the main one.) Chrysler was really into 'decontenting' in those
    years. My doors are also missing some sound deadening and water stops
    that previous years had(according to the pictures in the manual), and
    the rear wiper and defrost controls were moved down into the HVAC pod to
    make assembly cheaper. (Too bad you have to take your eyes off the road
    to FIND them, unlike the original up-high locations...) Junkyard wanted
    an arm and a leg for those dash parts, so I said the hell with moving
    them back.

    30 years ago, Ford used to use the same harness on all the vehicles
    built off a particular platform. Made it real easy to upgrade my
    junkheaps with toys from junkyard cars. Just bolt it on, and plug it in.
     
    aemeijers, Apr 11, 2010
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  19. This looks like the way to go. They made about 4M of them from 1988 to
    1993, and about 15-20% of those were LE and SE versions. I can see the
    wiring and the colors, and I did find a diagram for a '92.

    I also found the wiring for the Infinity stereo, and now can hook up an
    aftermarket and have those magnificent rear speakers booming their bass
    out... ;)
     
    Hachiroku ハチロク, Apr 11, 2010
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    clare Guest

    Go to youtr local library and see if they have a manual. Second
    choice subscribe to Aldata or see if anyone around your area has the
    computerised manuals that can print you out the diagram. Can't
    remember the name of the program - but most garages use either it or
    Aldata now.
     
    clare, Apr 11, 2010
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