1989 2.5L stops 2-3 seconds after starting... for the experts:

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Michael Gudzinowicz, Jul 16, 2003.

  1. 1989 2.5L stops 2-3 seconds after starting... for the experts:

    My local dealer has admitted great difficulty in diagnosing this
    recurrent problem. They have the car at this time.

    History:

    A few years ago, the 1989 Dynasty had a similar problem due to a
    vacuum sensor failure, which was replaced by the local dealer.
    Subsequently, all of the vacuum lines were replaced after one
    cracked. The new "T's" melted down, and were replaced.

    Last fall, the car would start and run smoothly for 2 or 3
    seconds, and then shut down. This time, the dealer indicated that
    it wasn't the sensor, vacuum, or continuity problems, but
    appeared to be fuel starvation (the pressure was low). The filter
    and fuel pump were replaced which had no effect. Eventually, they
    replaced the computer, and the car was running smoothly again,
    except for a few stalling episodes while coasting to a stop which
    didn't recur. Other components were checked, and appeared to be OK.

    A month ago, the symptoms reappeared. The mechanic felt that it
    was not an electronic failure. The engine stopped running after a
    few seconds, and fuel pressure would drop. The injector was
    firing. Clamping the fuel return line permitted the engine to
    run. Swapping the injector with a used known "good" injector and
    seal permitted the engine to run with normal fuel pressure (+14
    psi). The old injector seal was crushed on one edge. Replacing it
    seemed to solve the problem. Presure remained high and stable.

    Now... the same scenario. The engine would start and run for two
    or three seconds; when it stopped, I could detect the odor of
    gasoline, which suggested flooding (that no longer occurs). The
    technician at the dealer indicated that the "clamp" trick didn't
    work in the parking lot, and that I might need a new injector.
    After working on the car, they determined that the injector was
    firing, and the ignition system appears to be OK. Holding the
    throttle open while spraying starter fluid permits the engine to
    run. The current suggestion is to replace the computer, and
    assume that last month's the leaking o-ring simply was
    coincidental with an intermittent computer problem. (I do not
    know if they checked fuel pressure, the o-ring or swapped the
    injector for a good one this time around, but I assume they did.)

    One additional bit of information... After the car shuts down, it
    does not restart unless the key returns to the "off" position.
    Otherwise, it just cranks. The implication is that the computer
    is being "reset". That sequence also occurred last month.

    A year ago, they indicated that they were baffled by the problem,
    and a straightforward solution still is not apparent.

    Any clues?

    I'll pass them along today.

    Thank you for reading the post.

    Mike in RI
     
    Michael Gudzinowicz, Jul 16, 2003
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  2. Michael Gudzinowicz

    David Little Guest

    Does it have a security system?

    Try locking the car, using the key to enter through passenger front door,
    then cranking. (early security system override)

    Does it use a "chipped" ignition key?

    If so, try using another key, or have the dealer code another key to it.
    (security key immobilizer unit - if equipped)
     
    David Little, Jul 16, 2003
    #2
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