1984 Laser: Manual Transmission Shifting Problems Cold

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Jonathan Grobe, Dec 20, 2004.

  1. I have a 1984 Chrysler Laser with manual transmission.
    I have shifting problems when it is cold (significantly below
    freezing) but not normally.

    The shift lever will go forward and back but not left
    to right (in the location it normally moves left and
    right).

    Do I have ice somewhere???? Where? What is the
    explanation? Solution?

    Thank you.
     
    Jonathan Grobe, Dec 20, 2004
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  2. The explanation is the viscosity of your transmission oil becomes that
    of cold molasses at these temperatures, and you can get it into gear
    when cold if you are patient. Once warmed up, it will work as normal.

    If you don't want this problem, put some kind of heater under your
    transmission. See your dealer or auto parts store.

    Lg
     
    Lawrence Glickman, Dec 20, 2004
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    shiden_kai Guest

    Did you actually read his post, Lawrence?

    Ian
     
    shiden_kai, Dec 20, 2004
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Careful Ian! He'll threaten you then he'll Plonk you!!!! 8^)

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 20, 2004
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    Dave Gower Guest

    I would look for a build-up of grease on the transmission shift levers,
    which will trap dirt which in turn will absorb water which will freeze.
    Clean everything and lubricate with light oil. You can see these under the
    hood.

    I had one of those beasts for a while in the early 1990s, and if I recall
    correctly the end of the cables had rubber boots over them, which could
    easily trap dirt.
     
    Dave Gower, Dec 21, 2004
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    Comboverfish Guest


    The advice you received regarding shift cable binding is worth checking
    out. (Especially the cable that selects the different shift forks left
    to right)

    An extra thought: I have overhauled 5 or 10 of the K car transaxles (I
    think New Process 535s) and during the late 80's it seems like Chrysler
    retroactively began specifying ATF for trans lube verses 90 weight. I
    have always used ATF with no problem. It gets down near 0 degrees F.
    here for a couple weeks a year, but shifting my and my customer's
    Chryslers was no problem due to the thinner oil. No durability
    problems to note either.

    I got a customer in once with a 89 Omni that had a wasted mainshaft and
    diff bearings. It had recently been to a 'Trans' shop who used 90
    weight during an overhaul. The fix was to do it all over again with
    new parts and ofcourse use ATF.

    Toyota MDT in MO
     
    Comboverfish, Dec 21, 2004
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    Nate Nagel Guest

    Instead of ATF how about the lightest weight gear oil that Redline
    sells? seems like it might be the best of both worlds. Or, of course,
    synthetic ATF would probably work just as well. The synthetic is
    wonderful in cold weather.

    nate
     
    Nate Nagel, Dec 21, 2004
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    Comboverfish Guest

    Do whatever you want, but ATF works and is <$1.50 a quart. I fix daily
    drivers under a budget restraint, not (usually) for enthusiasts who
    want the latest greatest oil in their trans case! : )

    Toyota MDT in MO
     
    Comboverfish, Dec 21, 2004
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    clemslay Guest

    One cable is for front and back,
    the other cable is for left and right.
    That one is freezing.
    How to fix, I have no idea.
    Maybe thaw and lube well.
     
    clemslay, Dec 25, 2004
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    clemslay Guest

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    clemslay, Dec 25, 2004
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    John_F Guest

    Most likely your problem is one shift cable has grease that has become
    stickey and dirty. There are two cables one for front and back and
    the other for side to side. Replace or clean the cable.
     
    John_F, Dec 27, 2004
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