1983 Dodge Ram 150 question

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by N.Cass, May 20, 2004.

  1. N.Cass

    N.Cass Guest

    Hello all! I just aquired a '83 Ram 150 custom, slant 6, 4 spd manual
    trans. After driving this truck I've decided the 1 bbl carb has to go. I
    think if I put a 2 bbl carb/intake on it should make it a little more
    "driveable." My questions are:

    What intake/carb applications fit this engine? Can I use just about any
    225c.i. slant six carb and intake? What else do I have to do after the
    installation of the carb and intake?

    The truck doesn't have A/C. The "Lean Burn" system has been bypassed, so
    it has just standard electronic ignition. The truck and its drivetain
    has around 120K miles.

    Any and all help is greatly appreciated!


    Thanks!
     
    N.Cass, May 20, 2004
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  2. It will definitely do that. A deeper (numerically higher) rear axle ratio
    will also be a very large help. But before you make any engine mods --
    does this truck have to pass an exhaust emission test? Where are you
    located?
    All slant-6 manifolds fit all slant-6 engines. The manifold you want is
    the *IRON* 2bbl intake found in North America on '76-'80 cars and trucks
    with the "Super Six" engine. Take a magnet with you to make certain the
    intake you get is iron and not aluminum; the aluminum ones were hideously
    prone to leakage not only due to warping but also *through* the castings
    and sloppy EB welds, which were porous.

    Your conversion is simplified by the manual transmission; you won't need
    to futz with kickdown linkage. Here is your shopping list:

    Intake manifold (may as well get the exhaust, too, as a spare, if it's not
    cracked)

    Carburetor (Carter BBD 2bbl)

    Choke thermostat (bolted to number-5 exhaust manifold runner -- different
    for 2bbl)

    Air cleaner

    Throttle cable (shorter than 1bbl -- a V8 truck cable may work)

    Throttle cable bracket (bolted to exhaust manifold)

    Throttle return spring bracket (bolted to intake manifold)

    You'll want to go through the carburetor and rebuild it -- they're not
    hard to rework with a quality kit.
    Guess this answers the smog check question with a "No"! Check and see
    which distributor is installed -- if they just yanked the lean burn and
    left the LB distributor in place, you'll pick up a great deal of
    driveability and performance with a thoughtfully-selected distributor such
    as the 3755042 units regularly sold on Ebay.

    There are all kinds of other ways to spend money wisely (camshaft, clutch
    fan, Dutra Duals, for example) and foolishly (4bbl, headers, for instance)
    in your quest for better performance out of your 225. Suggest you go sign
    up for www.slantsix.org and start posting questions and reading past
    answers.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, May 20, 2004
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  3. N.Cass

    N.Cass Guest

    Thanks for the quick reply Daniel! I live about 50 miles north of
    Indianapolis; there are no smog checks where I live.


    There isn't too much more I need to do; this truck drives pretty good.
    However with the 1 bbl, if I get a hill to climb or a stiff headwind, I
    am lucky to get more than 60 mph out of it. I will look at the
    distributer and see if it was replaced. Do you know how much this
    Carb/intake conversion will change the gas mileage? I am currently
    getting around 18 mpg.

    Thanks again for the very valuable info, and now I begin my shopping!
     
    N.Cass, May 20, 2004
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  4. Well, then, by all means!
    MPGs will not change much if at all -- the 1bbl carbs, especially the
    post-'81 units, are really poorly designed. The 2bbls are much better. Of
    course, MPG and driveability are highly dependent on carb condition!
    DOnno if you'll see much of this stuff in yards near Indy; it goes by on
    Ebay fairly often.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, May 20, 2004
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  5. N.Cass

    Justin Guest

    or dropping in a nice running 318ci V8 for more power and smoothness. I
    have an '87 Ram D150, last year for the /6. I should have gotten one with
    a 318ci but the /6 is OK for me. I just use it for hauling stuff, not for
    hauling ass. I think I wouldn't spend over $200 on hopping up a slant 6,
    I'd just put the money into a 318ci fund. Probably wouldn't be too hard to
    find a good running 318 for $500 or so.
     
    Justin, May 20, 2004
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  6. My '89 has the 318. I'd much rather have a properly-set-up \6.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, May 20, 2004
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  7. N.Cass

    Justin Guest


    My \6 isn't properly set-up, 1 barrel Holley, stock everything but runs
    perfect. Let's trade engines! :)
     
    Justin, May 20, 2004
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  8. Works for me. I am overstocked with Slant-6 buildup equipment. I have
    *three* triple-SU sidedraft carb setups, two sets of Dutra Duals, numerous
    distributors, etc etc. etc.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, May 20, 2004
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  9. N.Cass

    Guest Guest

    Don't expect a big difference in power from replacing the one barrel
    carb with a two barrel. There will be an increase, but it will be
    small, and not that noticable.
     
    Guest, May 21, 2004
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  10. N.Cass

    Justin Guest


    Daniel, you live in Michigan, right? I remember you from some slant 6
    sites a few years back. You're famous in the /6 community. Have a pic of
    your 1989 Ram? I have one of my '87 Ram D150 shortie I can email you.
    Maybe we can swap rigs. Here's some info. on my rig:

    87 Ram D150, shortbed fleetside, 225 ci slant 6 (last year for the \6) runs
    good, AT -- 904 TorqueFlite (linkage is a bit stiff sometimes), white with
    small red pinstriping, blue interior (no carpeting), factory hubcaps, snow
    tires on back, new exhaust, rebuilt Holley 1 barrel, rebuilt title (has a
    new front end due to a hit -- new fenders, hood, grille ('81-'85 grille),
    new PS pump, new Ram's head, radiator, etc.), ex utility truck, shows 8,000
    miles (probably 108,000), nice looking truck, way less rust than most NE
    trucks, located in NE OH, near PA.
     
    Justin, May 21, 2004
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  11. Michigan and Ontario.
    I'm still around on slantsix.org
    It's all a vicious rumor! ;-)
    I can take one...
    I'd be interested if your '87 had A/C. I spent a ton of time, effort and
    $$ tracking down an original new factory A/C package and installing it in
    my '89 for the hot, sticky summer. It's cool, man...

    Specs on mine, which I'll sell if a good offer comes my way:

    '89 Ram D100, longbed fleetside, 318 ("5.2") V8/TBI, A998 auto w/TransGo
    "phase 1" shift kit (positive shifts but not harsh ones), rear ABS, hard
    bedliner, new stainless exhaust including catcon and muffler, brand new
    factory A/C (NOT the add-on type! If I didn't tell you, you wouldn't know
    the truck didn't come from the factory with A/C), red w/maroon interior
    and carpet, factory hubcaps, 1-year-old BFG all seasons and 1-winter-old
    Nokian Hakkapellittas, hard bedliner, rear step bumper, sliding rear
    cabglass, H4 headlights, new HD radiator, new (not rebuilt) alternator and
    starter, aluminum Edelbrock Performer intake w/custom spacer for factory
    TBI, engine removed, disassembled, cleaned, inspected, approved, resealed
    and reinstalled. New factory underhood pad. Regularly oiled against rust,
    of which there is none. Manual windows, manual locks. Halogen reversing
    lamps. Meets both US and Canadian safety standards and has manufacturer's
    labelling to prove it, so freely able to be registered in either the US or
    Canada.

    -Stern (mail 318 at torque dot net )
     
    Daniel J. Stern, May 27, 2004
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  12. N.Cass

    Justin Guest



    AC?!?! Who needs it? I just open both windows on the '87 D150 and let
    the wind flow through, cools me off. But I understand your desire for
    AC. Your rig sounds nice, nicer than mine. It's hard to find a nice,
    original, ungoobered up old truck these days. Most have been tweaked
    and juryrigged and/or abused. My father (lives in AZ) is in the process
    of fixing up a '62 Ford Unibody short bed truck. He's using the front
    suspension and slant 6 out of a donor '78 Aspen. Ever see a Ford
    Unibody with a slant 6? He's a big /6 nut. He has about five /6's in
    his shop for parts. He has a /6 in his '64 A100 van, in his Dart, and
    soon one in his Unibody Ford. I've been telling him that we need to
    start a slant 6 wrecking yard/used parts warehouse and ship /6 parts
    worldwide (I'll create an internet database). As soon as his Unibody is
    done. I'll make a website about it and let y'all check it out.
     
    Justin, May 27, 2004
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  13. I'm a hedonist, even my '62 Lancer has Chrysler Airtemp A/C that'll freeze
    my nuts off if I'm not careful.
    Station wagons are mostly all used-up, too.
    Seems a fairly popular swap, at least as far as the front suspension swap
    goes.
    Ask him if he's ever seen a die-cast aluminum \6 block. I have one in my
    '62, and used to have four others.

    -Stern
     
    Daniel J. Stern, May 27, 2004
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