1977 chrysler lebaron lean burn question

Discussion in 'LeBaron' started by crioten, Aug 6, 2006.

  1. crioten

    crioten Guest

    i just picked up a 1977 lebaron with the 318 2bbl carb and lean burn
    ignition.

    im getting ready to tear off the lean burn crap but i have a few
    questions.

    i have a mopar electronic ignition conversion kit, but dont know if i
    can modify the carb on there, or just buy a new one. what should i do?
    can you also direct me to a part number for a new carb that will work
    on there?

    im used to working on imports, and this is my first domestic... ive
    seen the light and dont want to go back :)

    any advice would be great

    also, could you possibly give me some links to look at that might have
    more info on them about removing the lean burn?
     
    crioten, Aug 6, 2006
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  2. crioten

    sqdancerLynn Guest

    Does yours still have the big Computer hanging off the air cleaner ?. As I
    remember the lean burn came with a 4bbl thermoQuad. The factory used to
    swap a two BBL carb/manifold for the lean burn because it was such a
    problem. They used a carter BBD style carb. Any 2bbl from a mid 70's 318
    should work. I have several 4bbls that will work if you want to change the
    intake manifold, several NON lean buurn thermoquads & a aftermarket #9636
    Cry specific Carter AFB in good shape, also a factory 77 service manual
     
    sqdancerLynn, Aug 6, 2006
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  3. crioten

    Nirodac Guest

    ..com:
    Be careful of which carb you get.

    When the dealer replaced the LEan burn on my 80 Lebaron 318, he
    installed one that didn't have a vaccum advance port. Oh the
    port was there, it just wasn't connected internally in the carb.
    So while all the hoses looked correct, there was no vaccum. The
    car ran for two years with no vaccum advance (mostly stayed
    parked, till I inherited it). The two part numbers where
    virtually identical, except for the suffix.
    You will need to change the dist. The Lean burn used an
    electronic controlled dist. You need a vaccum controlled dist.
    The dealer at least got the dist right. Using help from posters
    on this NG, I did get everything working eventually.
    There is a site with instructions on how to change out the lean
    burn for conventional. I can't find it right now, you might try
    to goggle it. I'll see if I can find it later.
    To start with, try www.allpar.com
     
    Nirodac, Aug 6, 2006
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  4. crioten

    slpetlak Guest

    2 bbl might have been a Rochester model. Also a great source would be
    www.dippy.org Dodge Diplomat Farley's Page.

    A '77 Chrysler Le Baron would be the same as an 82, 83 2bbl Dodge
    Diplomat or Chrysler Fifth Avenue. All have the same body style, they
    are "M bodies".

    In California because of very stringent rules about smog modifications
    such as stripping off lean burn computer would violate state smog
    rules. Problem is lean burn computers are often faulty and don't do
    the job properly and you fail sniffer test; though you won't have
    visual/tampering failures as long as all the hardware is on correctly.

    Steve
     
    slpetlak, Aug 6, 2006
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  5. crioten

    sqdancerLynn Guest

    The modification was legal in Ca per CARB ONLY if done by the dealer,
    Didn't mention dist because he is already changing it. Had a 77 Aspen
    Wagon with lean burn system, bought it super cheap in 1990? as a fixer
    upper Ended up Junking the body.
    A friend has a 71 Charger special ordered from factory 440/6pk IT
    wouldn't pass the tailpipe sniffer even when it was brand new. Haven't
    seen him in 5 years last I knew he still had it. IT had like 40k original
    miles
     
    sqdancerLynn, Aug 7, 2006
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  6. crioten

    crioten Guest

    ok guys thanks for the info, and sorry for my late replys...

    ~yes, it still has the big computer on the air cleaner, and as far as i
    know this car is all original, but it could have been changed

    ~im still a little confused as to exactly what carb to get... could
    someone tell me if summit racing has the carb i would need, and its
    part number? i love summit lol

    ~i dont live in cali, so i dont have to worry about that crap. hell...
    i dont even have any kind of emissions test :)

    thanks again
     
    crioten, Aug 8, 2006
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  7. crioten

    Nirodac Guest

    wrote in
    My former lean burner 318, now uses a Carter BBD-8292S.
    Not spectacular performance, but good gas mileage.
    Manual says you can also use a Carter TQ-9372S or TQ-9364S
    these are thermoquads.

    Beyond that, and from summit, I can't help you.
     
    Nirodac, Aug 9, 2006
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  8. crioten

    crioten Guest

    cool, thanks for the info....

    where is the best place to get those? id rather order it from the net,
    so any web sites would be great

    thanks again
     
    crioten, Aug 10, 2006
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  9. crioten

    sqdancerLynn Guest

    Back to your original post. Change the dist & install the electronic ign,
    see how it runs.. I have not see that manny lean burn systems. The one's I
    have seen & THE 77 factory book diagrams show it as using a 4bbl thermoquad
    carb IF you indead have a two bbl carb, part of it may have already been
    eliminated
     
    sqdancerLynn, Aug 16, 2006
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