1971 Plymouth Valiant fly wheel

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Spear, Feb 23, 2004.

  1. Spear

    Spear Guest

    does anybody know what the other fly wheelsa can be used on an 1971
    plymouth Valiant with an 225ci(3.71L) engine with an 904G trans? Mine is
    bare and needs to be replaced.

    any thoughts welcomed.
     
    Spear, Feb 23, 2004
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  2. Any slant 6 flexplate from 1968 through 1988 except those used with the 727
    and 12" torque converter.

    Your flexplate is bare?

    Joshua Skinner
     
    Joshua Skinner, Feb 23, 2004
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  3. Spear

    Neil Nelson Guest

    If it has a 904 transmission, it wouldn't have a flywheel.

    The torque convertor contains the ring gear for the starter, it
    mates to the crankshaft via the flexplate.
     
    Neil Nelson, Feb 23, 2004
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  4. Spear

    Spear Guest

    Bare in spots or is that teeth in spots.. It looked kinda iffy when i put
    the starter in about 1.5 years ago. it is our back up car. my primary car is
    an 1991 plymouth acclaim and it is down right now also(near dead engine).
     
    Spear, Feb 23, 2004
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  5. Spear

    Spear Guest

    Does that mean that I need to replace the torque converter?
     
    Spear, Feb 23, 2004
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  6. Neil,
    By "bare", do you mean it is missing teeth for the starter to engage? If
    so, that gear *can* be replaced but it's often not done because the process
    is a bit tedious, and a replacement converter can be had relatively
    inexpensively. If you wish to replace the converter, I recommend you steer
    clear of used converters -- I recommend going with a rebuilt unit.
    Bryan
     
    Bryan Swadener, Feb 23, 2004
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  7. As others have pointed out, your Valiant with automatic transmission
    hasn't got a flywheel, per se. It's got a torque converter, and if the
    ring gear teeth are worn or broken, you will need either a replacement
    ring gear or a replacement torque converter. I agree with the poster who
    suggested a rebuilt torque converter. Be advised that while *most* '71
    Slant-6 automatic cars got the regular Chrysler gear reduction starter, a
    few of them got the direct-drive starter instead. These two starters use
    different ring gears (perhaps a cause of your currently-chewed ring
    gear?), and many catalogues do not list the torque converter for the
    direct-drive starter. The fix here would be to talk with the converter
    rebuilder -- these are usually done locally. The ring gear needed for use
    with the direct-drive starter is that specified for use on all 1960-1961
    slant-6/auto applications.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 23, 2004
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  8. Spear

    Neil Nelson Guest

    I'm not the original poster...
     
    Neil Nelson, Feb 23, 2004
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  9. Spear

    Neil Nelson Guest

    Most likely.
    The starter ring gear is usually welded on, so replacement would
    involve cutting the welds and then welding a new ring gear on (if
    you can even find one) and then hoping it runs true.

    Manual transmission flywheels had/have field replaceable ring
    gears although replacement involves "sweating" the new gear onto
    the flywheel, IOWs, you'd need a method to uniformly heat the
    entire ringe gear.
     
    Neil Nelson, Feb 23, 2004
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  10. Spear

    Pax Guest

    All of the other posters are correct, mostly. The cheap, easy fix is to go
    to the junkyard and grab another convertor for $10-$20... slant sixes where
    a dime a dozen once upon a time. (go to the little out-of-the way junk
    yards... their easier to deal with). Look around and out in the farmers
    feilds on your way, you might just get a complete, running 'parts' car for
    free just for towing it away. Don't be shy, walk right up and knock on the
    door...smile, be polite, and be respectful.... watch out for the dog).

    :))

    ooh yea.... look for valiants, darts, dusters, ect... a dime-a-dozen engine,
    a good one too.... I'm probably the only guy on the planet who was ever able
    to 'beat' one to death. A two-barrel carbs will fit on the one-barrel intake
    too....)
     
    Pax, Feb 25, 2004
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  11. Interchange is '68 to '77 passenger car with slant-6 or 318 V8 engine and
    904 (standard duty) automatic transmission.
    Won't, at least not without one of those dumb 2bbl-to-1bbl "adaptors".
    2bbl intakes for the \6 are readily available, however.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 25, 2004
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  12. Oops!
     
    Bryan Swadener, Feb 25, 2004
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  13. Spear

    Pax Guest


    Yes it will....turn the 2 barrel sideway.
     
    Pax, Feb 25, 2004
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  14. Spear

    Pax Guest

    Ooh...I forgot to add that you can also swap in a 318/340 for a slant six
    by turning the right slant six motor mount around. The engine will sit
    slightly tilted but it works. The proper way it to use a V-8 K-Frame but if
    you don't have one laying around.... turn the mount. My junkyard owning
    friend did that with a 340/Dart combo..... daily driver raced at the local
    1/8 strip every weekend for 2 years.... great little ride.
     
    Pax, Feb 25, 2004
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  15. *Won't*. The 2bbl has a 4-bolt, rectangular mount. The 1bbl has a 2-bolt,
    oval mount.

    You're on glue.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 25, 2004
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  16. This is one of the major reasons it's so hard to find good used old cars
    -- idiots like "Pax" have hacked them.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 25, 2004
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  17. Spear

    robs440 Guest

    yeash i saw guy do that once with a log chain as a motor mount. engines and
    trans sitting at a 30 degree angle. wondered why he kept breaking trans
    mounts........
     
    robs440, Feb 26, 2004
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  18. Not as bad as the old Fenner 2X4s....
     
    news.mil.sbcglobal.net, Feb 26, 2004
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  19. Spear

    robs440 Guest

    never saw those........i'll have to ask him next time im in vegas!!

    the guy i was thinking about was a loser down at frank dunns salvage
     
    robs440, Feb 26, 2004
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