1970 Dodge Challenger

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Nomen Nescio, Sep 24, 2007.

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    Nomen Nescio Guest

    Nomen Nescio, Sep 24, 2007
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    Ripcord Guest

    That is one beautiful car
     
    Ripcord, Sep 24, 2007
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    kmath50 Guest

    While the 6 cylinder models are not as popular for collecting, this
    one appears to be in good condition, and the *Plum Crazy" paint job is
    a plus.

    -KM
     
    kmath50, Sep 27, 2007
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    Mike Y Guest

    It's not a "6-cylinder model". If the badging is correct, it was an R/T
    that
    had the motor pulled and replaced

    If I remember correctly, the 383Magnum was the smallest engine available
    in an R/T package.

    In the early 70's, I saw this a number of times. There was a guy with an
    orange SuperBird in south Bethlehem that dropped in a 318 and used
    it as a commuter car.
     
    Mike Y, Sep 27, 2007
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    kmath50 Guest

    I believe that this is correct, in that the 383 was the smallest
    engine available for the R/T package. If it truely is an R/T, some of
    the collector value would be lost by swapping out the 383. It also
    says that it is a 3-speed, but it has the "pistol grip" shifter. Is it
    possible that a 6 cylinder and three speed transmission were swapped
    in, and the pistol grip shifter could be adapted to work with the
    three speed transmission?

    If I were buying it, I would want all the numbers to match.

    I do remember the ads for the Challenger, and the slant 6 was offered
    at the time.

    -KM
     
    kmath50, Sep 27, 2007
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    Mike Y Guest

    I don't think the pistol grip shifter was offered or compatible with the
    3-speed. I had access to a Charger RT 440-6 for a short time that
    had the pistol grip shifter and it was really nice. Classy.

    I just had a friend pick up the shifter for his son's car... It's quite
    collectable in itself.
     
    Mike Y, Sep 27, 2007
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    aarcuda69062 Guest

    Copied from he auction listing;
    "Up for auction is a Plum Crazy '70 Challenger that retains its
    original 6cyl. engine and 3-speed manual transmission, complete
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    with pistol grip shifter. Car is very solid both on the body and
    the undercarriage with no signs of rust. The paint is newer and I
    would give it a 7 out of 10. Car has R/T badging and comes with
    an 8 3/4 rearend, ready for your big block conversion "

    Looks like it's an original slant 6 car that has had R/T badging
    applied.
    The pistol grip was no doubt added as it wasn't the standard
    shifter for a three speed.
     
    aarcuda69062, Sep 28, 2007
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    Mike Y Guest

    Well, while I suppose it could be done, I really would suspect the motor
    was pulled as opposed to the badging being done. The "R/T" badges
    that are chrome on the sides are just too good. Also, the exhaust
    appears to be original RT style, and I don't think there was any
    dual exhaust option for the 225 from the factory.

    Also, I thought the factory R/T package included an engine mark on
    the sides of the scoop. But since there was no 225 badge that I ever
    heard of, I suppose a clean scoop is ok.

    Finally, the pistol grip is the 'flat plate' and while I can't read the top
    of the shifter, it appears to be a 4-speed, but again, I can't really tell.

    There are two possibilities. One is the motor was pulled and replaced
    with a 225, and the hood was 'filled' and repainted when the motor
    designation was pulled. The other is the R/T markings were all added
    later, as well as the flat plate pistol grip shifter and dual exhaust. If
    the
    badging was added and the mods made, someone did a pretty good
    job.
     
    Mike Y, Sep 28, 2007
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    aarcuda69062 Guest

    Well, while I suppose it could be done,[/QUOTE]

    The shifter? Absolutely. I put a B body pistol grip shifter in
    a 1967 Jeep 4X4 pick-up back in 1978.
    Comparing the VIN stamping on the engine against the windshield
    VIN and body stampings is all that's needed.
    Readily available from Year One and others.
    Swap the rear valance, buy some repop tips and either hang one as
    a dummy or have an exhaust shop bend some pipe.
    Raisin Bran hood from a bone yard.
    Looking at the shifter won't reveal whether it's a 3 speed or a 4
    speed.
    Why would someone misrepresent a real R/T as a non-R/T vehicle?
     
    aarcuda69062, Sep 28, 2007
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    Nomen Nescio Guest

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    philthy Guest

    the pistol grip could be ordered for that car and i know some one who has one
    and it has the same set up but his is black
    he bought his from a retire chrysler exec
     
    philthy, Sep 30, 2007
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